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Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by scotty79 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @04:03AM (#38839629)
My personal observation is that I also need to eat a piece of beef every other day at least because body doesn't have dedicated store for protein and if I forget to deliver it my body seems to take it from places like my joint and tendons.
Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by onetimeuse92304 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @04:08AM (#38839664)
You want to eat protein every day to be efficient at building tissue. By eating every other day you cut ability to build stuff. Yes, the body does not have stores of protein other than your other tissue.

It can decompose for example muscle and other connective tissue (which actually is quite important to be healthy), but it does limit ability to build tissue.

Lesson from bodybuilding crowd is that you need to eat protein with every meal if you are serious about building anything. They want to build muscle but it really extends to all tissues of our body.

Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by XorNot on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @04:42AM (#38839862)
Agreeing with this: please track your protein and check it against your weight. You can eat quite a large excess of protein safely, so it's not a hard quota to hit (and if you're having trouble, protein powder is great as a booster in things - I have it with breakfast cereal to give me a morning kick).
Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by scotty79 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @07:14AM (#38840838)
Good to know. I'm not interested in building anything. Just not losing things that hurt when I lose them. I'm sure I'm getting some protein as well even on the days when I skip the beef. I just noticed that my joints deteriorate if I'm not somewhat intentional about protein.
Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by danielbln on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @06:02AM (#38840353)
As a streak runner that is also vegetarian, it doesn't have to be animal protein, or rather it doesn't have to come from muscle tissue/meat.
Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by onetimeuse92304 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @07:45AM (#38841066)
It doesn't have to be, true, but it is heck of a lot healthier and easier if it is meat.

I have nothing against veganism and vegetarianism. It is a lofty goal.

But strictly on health standpoint, no amount or kind of plant food can (currently) beat healthy whole animal tissue (you should really eat more than just meat and also not all animals are same way healthy to eat).

Now, this doesn't mean there can't be better plant-derived foods in the future. A protein is a protein is a protein.

The problem with plant based protein is they come in wrong concentrations, wrong combinations, they are missing some stuff or they have extra things that make protein more difficult to absorb. If we can fix these points, we can have healthy plant based diets.

But really the main benefit of meat is that you get close to the right concentrations of everything by very definition. If you eat whole animal, that is. We have evolved to eat meat and only evolved to eat plants to supplement some small things (mainly vitamin C and to eat fructose and alcohol to get fat for the winter).

With this, any stupid person can eat relatively healthy diet. You just put a steak in your mouth and you are 80% of the way there.

On the other hand eating healthy diet on plants is a difficult task requiring planning and diligence that I think half of the population is simply not equipped with brain power to execute correctly.

Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by chimprich on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @11:07AM (#38843090)
> We have evolved to eat meat

We evolved as opportunists and generalists. Humans are capable of taking nutrition from plants or animals.

> and only evolved to eat plants to supplement some small things

I believe this is backwards. There are examples of hunter-gatherer societies with meat-dominant diets, but more typically hunter-gatherer diets were/are predominantly plant-based. In most environments hunting was a less reliable source of food and more opportunistic.

> But really the main benefit of meat is that you get close to the right concentrations of everything by very definition.

Not really. Maybe if you were eating chimp... but chickens have very different compositions to cows, pigs, salmon or polar bears.

> You just put a steak in your mouth and you are 80% of the way there.

It really isn't that simple. For example, it is well established that excessive red meat consumption raises the risk of colorectal cancer and other bad things.

Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by ekianjo on Wednesday January 03, 2024 @01:39AM (#38851404)
> Humans are capable of taking nutrition from plants or animals.

Well yes but no. Large brains were largely made possible by the fact we mastered fire (mostly to cook meat). Look at gorillas, they eat plants and spend most of their waking life to forage for food. Having even larger brains means that foraging would be impossible to sustain a modern human's constitution.

Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by merry_flame on Friday January 05, 2024 @04:23AM (#38877223)
Fire is mostly a benefit as far as processing carbs are concerned, not meat.
Re:Eating fewer calories can ward off ageing by scotty79 on Tuesday January 02, 2024 @07:22AM (#38840889)
Probably depends on the person. Beef made a huge difference for me in comparison to my previous diet which had very little meat in it because I never liked it but plenty of dairy, eggs, lentils, broccoli, beans, potatoes and some fish eaten according to my day to day tastes. I read somewhere that meat could be used in monodiet and after making myself eat beef which turned out to be surprisingly easily digestible and satiating I am inclined to believe it.