I checked a random amazon basics powerstrip and there's an ETL certification mark on them. As much as it's popular to hate on amazon for fakes/subquality products, your particular example is a poor one.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/W/MEDIAX_792452-T2/images/...

Funnily enough AmazonBasics is probably the safest set of products on Amazon, as nobody but Amazon is allowed to sell those products. A brand name item might be a fake, but AmazonBasics is always the original (potentially crappy anyway) product.

EV Chargers then. Search for Level 2 EV Charger. The number of generic chineesium chargers available that will move 40amps of power in your garage without UL or ETL certification is mind-boggingly high.

I've seen some advertise "UL Safety Report", which I assume is weasel-words for "We failed UL certification so we can't actually say the magic phrase 'UL Listed'".

I've seen some claim to be UL Listed without being able to find them on the UL site.

Sure, it's nice to buy a cheap chinesium drone, but something moving 40amps of power and heat in your home without accepted safety checks? That feels like something that should have some liability on the merchant's side when it burns something down.

>EV Chargers then. Search for Level 2 EV Charger. The number of generic chineesium chargers available that will move 40amps of power in your garage without UL or ETL certification is mind-boggingly high.

Sounds like you're talking about third party EV chargers. What does this have to do with amazon basics? Or are you pulling a motte and bailey, going from "amazon basics is going to burn down your house" to "third party EV chargers are going to burn down your house"?

I went down a small rabbit hole of Amazon electrical products once. You truly are better off at the big orange or blue hardware store for anything electric. Might cost a few bucks more but you don't have multiple suppliers referencing the same fake certificates and skimping on wire gauge to save a few cents.

Nanny state socialism! The market should take care of dangerous products. Nobody is going to buy such a cord twice.

Of course nobody will buy a dangerous product twice. You can’t buy another product after being burned to a crisp!

without regulations the next differently branded unregulated cable might also burn your house down.

please fuck off

I read it as sarcasm, but I guess you can't tell these days. (Where these days is at least 20 years)

You won't buy such a cable twice because it will burn down your house and risk killing you, hence, you're not buying it a second time as a dead person. Obviously no flaws in that logic.

Poe's Law in action.

Not the guy you replied to, but I downvoted that comment because I find sarcastic strawmans to be tiring and don't add to discussion.

I disagree with this. A comment like this can provide some amusement and joy, as well as legitimate criticism of people who unironically hold similar beliefs to the one parodied.

I know the HN guidelines have had a "no joke" recommendation but it seems rather humorless (obviously) and can deny some form of humanity, the latter of which is rather unreasonable.

>I disagree with this. A comment like this can provide some amusement and joy

Maybe you still get a chuckle, but after the same tired strawmans get posted over and over again it gets annoying, similar to all the low effort comments on reddit like "username checks out", "RIP my inbox", "came here to say this", or any number of the common copypastas.

>as well as legitimate criticism of people who unironically hold similar beliefs to the one parodied.

Strawmans are not "legitimate criticism".

I assume this is sarcasm. But obviously this country has gone so far off the deep end that you can no longer tell.

The number of people who literally believe we should not regulate things like this is staggering.

None of the dick pills mentioned are AmazonBasics brand.