What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it

Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by nparafe on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @01:25PM (#38784883)

> is that Open Source has completely failed to serve the common person. For the most part, if they use us at all they do so through a proprietary software company's systems, like Apple iOS or Google Android, both of which use Open Source for infrastructure but the apps are mostly proprietary.

This most certainly wouldn't have happened if "open source realism" didn't stood against free software "utopian" idealists. I still remember the "Linux Kernel is now in most devices in the world" when Android came out. This didn't went well, didn't it?

Lastly, isn't redhat an enthusiastic supporter of open source ? The domain https://opensource.com/ is literally copyrighted and supported by redhat...

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by trelane on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @01:41PM (#38785042)

> I still remember the "Linux Kernel is now in most devices in the world" when Android came out. This didn't went well, didn't it?

I don't understand your point here. Could you please make it again, more directly?

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by aragilar on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:49PM (#38789815)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Perens is the interviewee. He helped create OSI, which pushed Open Source (vs Free Software).

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by nparafe on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:37AM (#38790708)

Open source supporters were celebrating Google's use of the Linux kernel in Android, hoping that this would promote it's usage. Android is now a Frankenstein spyware monster that uses mostly proprietary software.

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by trelane on Thursday December 28, 2023 @07:29AM (#38792801)

Which android are you referring to? The table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distrib... may help you.

I don't think that, say, Lineage or Calyx share the same privacy concerns as Google's android variant, or the myriad vendors' proprietary forks.

Of course, if most of Android were GPL instead of Apache, the lockin wouldn't be possible.

If you're referring to locked bootloaders and not being able to use the GPL kernel due to that, that was a defect in GPLv2 that was fixed in GPLv3 (that and software patents). TiVo was the one that induced that change, and the term was "tivoization."

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by pabs3 on Wednesday December 27, 2023 @10:50PM (#38789818)

RedHat no longer pays the people who worked on the articles at opensource.com, they all got fired in the recent layoffs.

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by nparafe on Thursday December 28, 2023 @01:39AM (#38790724)

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by pabs3 on Thursday December 28, 2023 @03:51AM (#38791423)

The team probably didn't bother to change those things after they got fired. Notice the latest post and lack of recent activity.

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by nparafe on Thursday December 28, 2023 @11:30PM (#38801772)

Red Hat - We make open source technologies for the enterprise: redhat.com webpage title

From wikipedia: Red Hat, Inc. is an American software company that provides open source software products to enterprises

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Re:What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it by pabs3 on Friday December 29, 2023 @12:04AM (#38801909)

Yes, but they still stopped funding opensource.com.

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