The dark side of social media on youth mental health

Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by Konnstann on Monday December 25, 2023 @08:30PM (#38768113)

Psychologists aren't doctors, just people with phds in psychology. Clinical psychologists might have some version of the oath though.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by 0xEF on Monday December 25, 2023 @08:26PM (#38768082)

No. The APA has an ethics code, but that's about it. Even the Hippocratic Oath is not as legally binding as we might want it to be.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by throwup238 on Monday December 25, 2023 @09:22PM (#38768398)

> Even the Hippocratic Oath is not as legally binding as we might want it to be.

That's largely because "do no harm" is a really fuzzy concept in a field where treatments like chemotherapy that put patients through absolute hell without any guarantee of remission or even comfort.

Other licensed professionals like professional engineers and lawyers have ethical codes with quite a bit more legal heft.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by opello on Tuesday December 26, 2023 @12:17AM (#38769114)

Not that the Hippocratic Oath is required everywhere or even consistently used.

> Contrary to popular belief, the Hippocratic Oath is not required by most modern medical schools, although some have adopted modern versions[1] that suit many in the profession in the 21st century.

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_oath.html

[1] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_modern.html

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by sjfjsjdjwvwvc on Monday December 25, 2023 @10:39PM (#38768722)

I got curios and looked it up: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Engineer

Does not seem to be legally binding, so it’s just nice sounding mumbo jumbo as far as I am concerned.

They should make SWEs take it regardless…

Edit: quick search gave the same results for lawyers

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by throwup238 on Monday December 25, 2023 @10:52PM (#38768774)

It is legally binding, it's just implemented via professional association rather than a regulatory framework. The US government even sues the NSPE over antitrust violations because of that code of ethics.

See National Society of Professional Engineers v. United States 435 US 679 [1]

[1] https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/435/679/

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by filoleg on Monday December 25, 2023 @10:43PM (#38768738)

> quick search gave the same results for lawyers

I mean, it might not be legally binding, but violating it will get you disbarred afaik. And if you are disbarred, you cannot legally practice law, so it is kinda legally binding, just not directly.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by krapp on Monday December 25, 2023 @08:35PM (#38768135)

I should hope a vague ritual invocation of pagan gods wouldn't be legally binding.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by User23 on Monday December 25, 2023 @10:37PM (#38768715)

It’s about as legally meaningful as wedding vows in our legal system.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by zabzonk on Monday December 25, 2023 @08:23PM (#38768064)

psychologists may well not be medics, so no. psychiatrists very often are medics.

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by sjfjsjdjwvwvc on Monday December 25, 2023 @10:42PM (#38768734)

Even if they were the oath doesn’t really mean anything beyond personal beliefs

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Re:The dark side of social media on youth mental health by anonfromsomewhe on Tuesday December 26, 2023 @03:30AM (#38769894)

I'm sure even if they do, with help of SE teams they will find tricks to make enough money.

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