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Re:America Lost the Chestnut, Its One Perfect Tree by ramblenode on Sunday December 24, 2023 @04:29PM (#38757035)
> A word salad devoid of any concrete knowledge

The parent's claim was "Biodiversity does not directly benefit everyone, while global trade does." If you or the parent want to make a more concrete and specific claim than this, I will happily reply in kind.

> No, extinction of species due to infections is not a planetary catastrophe. It's natural and perennial.

Indeed, but our human economy is built on top of relatively stable and predictable natural circumstances. If there is mass ecosystem collapse, the economy is coming down with it. If you don't believe this check out the graveyard of civlizations that overfarmed, overfished, clearcut forests, or otherwise weren't good stewards of their local ecology.

Re:America Lost the Chestnut, Its One Perfect Tree by alexey-salmin on Sunday December 24, 2023 @04:52PM (#38757261)
Correct, but that only means that our economy is a temporary phenomenon. Mass ecosystem collapses happen regularly whether we want it or not. Most of the past civilizations reached the graveyard due to very natural causes like 200 years long draughts.

"How to best adapt to changes" is an interesting question which I'd happily discuss. "How to prevent changes" is a meaningless question.

Re:America Lost the Chestnut, Its One Perfect Tree by Gud on Sunday December 24, 2023 @05:56PM (#38757849)
Those civilizations were riding camels and horses, they didn't make rockets. Very different scenarios.
Re:America Lost the Chestnut, Its One Perfect Tree by zaphar on Sunday December 24, 2023 @07:18PM (#38758367)
Not staking a claim on either side of this debate but how exactly do those two things being different affect the outcome of the debate?