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Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:05PM (#38750396)
Same. I've never lived in SF, but I convinced my wife to relocate to NYC so I could kick-start my tech career. We lived there for 4 years and then moved to FL in 2018. I'm glad I had the experience of living there, but I'll never do it again. Nor will I ever move to SF, no matter how lucrative the offer.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by wolverine876 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @11:16PM (#38751054)
> Nor will I ever move to SF, no matter how lucrative the offer.

You have never lived there, if I understand correctly. Why wouldn't you move there? Is there some experience you have with it? Housing prices? Internet rumors?

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Saturday December 23, 2023 @11:29PM (#38751134)
I've never lived there, but I visit often for work. Primarily two reasons - the first is that I'm starting a family and neither I nor my wife have any family there. The second is, as you guessed, the home prices. If I wanted something even remotely affordable, I'd have to live far away and have an insane commute. We've already lived that lifestyle in NYC, and we're not eager to return to it.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by j7ake on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:18AM (#38751342)
Seems like these issues can be solved with a lucrative offer:

1. Get a full time nanny.

2. Buy a home at a desirable neighbourhood.

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Sunday December 24, 2023 @02:17AM (#38751808)
Well, family is more than just daycare for one thing. But the larger point is that I don’t see my reasons as issues that need to be addressed. Silicon Valley is not the center of my universe.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by desmosxxx on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:40AM (#38751422)
That'd probably need to be a 1mil+ offer
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by ramraj07 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @10:35PM (#38750859)
As someone who chose NyC over SF to start my tech carrier myself, it looks like it would have been much better if I had gone to SF (from how my colleagues did). NYC was my dream city so I don’t regret it but SF is leagues ahead in terms of tech ecosystem.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Saturday December 23, 2023 @10:41PM (#38750887)
I feel the same, actually. Looking back, it definitely would have accelerated my career much further than NYC did.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by aplummer on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:15PM (#38750454)
The Bay Area is one thing, but why not nyc?
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by tshaddox on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:19PM (#38750483)
The Bay Area is also a much bigger place than SF. Unless you’re familiar with a lot of the Bay Area it would be pretty unfortunate to refuse a lucrative offer in many Bay Area places because of the problems that SF is infamous for.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by veggieburrito on Saturday December 23, 2023 @10:45PM (#38750900)
The Bay Area is large and the Greater Bay is massive if you take into account people commute in from Sac, Santa Rosa, and Santa Cruz to name a few.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:26PM (#38750522)
A bunch of reasons, but generally it's just an inconvenient place to live. I'm also about to have a kid and don't want to raise a child there.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by Shekelphile on Saturday December 23, 2023 @10:59PM (#38750981)
You would rather raise a child in a state like Florida where the government has made it illegal not to glorify the confederacy and chattel slavery?

That is a very odd choice. I get that the bay has a crime/homeless/CoL problem but fleeing to a place with much of the same issues in its own cities while also being one of the worst parts of the country culturally outside of then isn’t any better, IMO.

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Saturday December 23, 2023 @11:19PM (#38751079)
I didn't say anything about bay area homelessness, in fact the comment you're responding to was specifically about NYC, which I mentioned I lived in for 4 years. Also, no offense, but I'm willing to bet you haven't spent much time in Florida, if at all. Culturally, about half of my social circle is made up of Venezuelan refugees, all of whom love living here.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by Shekelphile on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:42AM (#38751428)
Using loaded language like refugee to refer to venezuela in itself gives away your biases.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by peyton on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:52AM (#38751469)
I don’t even know what bias you’re referring to. It’s called the Venezuelan refugee crisis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_refugee_crisis

Like I’m not even sure what language you’re supposed to use.

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by Shekelphile on Sunday December 24, 2023 @01:33AM (#38751612)
> Like I’m not even sure what language you’re supposed to use.

Economic migrant, most of the people 'fleeing' venezuela are elites, not people who were actually victims of the economy collapsing.

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Sunday December 24, 2023 @02:10AM (#38751768)
Several of them are granted official refugee status. Also not sure what bias you’re talking about.

FWIW, I’ve lived in 8 states - TN, MS, GA, AK, CO, NY, NJ, and FL. Every one of them has pros and cons, and you find all sorts of people everywhere. This idea that a particular state is somehow culturally worse, reflects a lack of either depth or life experience.

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by Shekelphile on Sunday December 24, 2023 @07:05PM (#38758283)
> Also not sure what bias you’re talking about.

You explicitly said the state which has laws on the books banning teaching that chattel slavery was a bad thing is a good place to raise a child in.

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by s1gnp0st on Sunday December 24, 2023 @01:37PM (#38755517)
You are digging for a reason to be mad at a person for mentioning he has friends. That's pretty pointlessly nasty.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by greesil on Saturday December 23, 2023 @10:00PM (#38750702)
Yeah they teach Cathode Ray Tubes here in school. No bueno.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by dopeboy on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:26PM (#38750518)
Which part of FL?
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:29PM (#38750538)
South Florida, about an hour north of Miami. The prices down here have gotten kind of crazy so I'd like to move, but our family is here so that makes it difficult. Still better overall than NYC.
Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by dopeboy on Sunday December 24, 2023 @12:24PM (#38754955)
Appreciate the response. Wife and I looked at SoFlo, specifically Miami, really closely. Even lived for a month. It was hard for us to pull the trigger, but cool to see it's working out for others.

I wouldn't mind being there as opposed to this winter in the bay...

Re:San Francisco’s rent prices have never returned to pre-20... by danielvaughn on Sunday December 24, 2023 @02:57PM (#38756268)
I'd be happy to trade places for the winter - I do miss my seasons!