Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's...
by darth_avocado on Saturday December 23, 2023 @09:28PM
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> No it doesn’t
It does because I learned this in the law class I took in undergrad. A quick google search would’ve told you that there are limitations to first amendment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_ex...
Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's...
by qwerasdf5 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @11:55PM
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He's talking about the Constitution. You're talking about the Supreme Court's interpretation of it, which is different (and could change.)
Re:Rumble Turns Off Access in Brazil Because of Government's...
by AnthonyMouse on Sunday December 24, 2023 @04:31AM
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No, the claim was:
> The constitution of United States, in the first Amendment prohibits certain speech
It does no such thing. It prohibits Congress from making laws that abridge the freedom of speech. Congress is not required to make any laws constraining speech, even if it is allowed to, and the First Amendment itself does not prohibit any speech.
No it doesn't. The First Amendment constrains the government from prohibiting most speech. It doesn't require any speech to be prohibited. If the US Congress wanted to be free speech absolutists, they wouldn't have to change the constitution.
> there are absolute cases when censorship is needed.
There are cases where most countries sanction it. That doesn't prove that it's needed.
Can you even name a case where it would be necessary as opposed to being possible to solve through e.g. vigorous enforcement of the laws against violence?
You're also avoiding the question. Sure, sometimes the same thing is illegal in both the US and China, but that's not the common case for free speech questions.
And putting aside the absolutist position, that's not even what you're arguing for here. The government can punish a direct speaker for imminent incitement of violence without imposing a prior restraint or putting intermediary liability on a third party who is merely a common carrier.