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Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by firesteelrain on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:28PM (#38746624)
Been in Tech for 20 years and never encountered a non compete clause
Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by neilv on Saturday December 23, 2023 @02:16PM (#38747165)
I see non-compete agreements in tech employment all the time in the US.

I also had to push back against an overly broad non-compete when contracting.

When I was leading engineering at an early startup, I had to push back against our lawyer, who drafted an employment agreement that none of us wanted to sign. It included broad non-compete, and a bunch of other grabby clauses.

That startup one was tricky, because we were getting rumors that supposedly investors were demanding non-competes from tech startups. Silicon Valley notwithstanding. (And a bunch of clauses I hadn't seen before, including things like, IIRC, the company has right to do search and seizure in the home of the employee, on IP grounds. This was pre-Covid.)

It's hard to argue, when you're an aspiring actor, fresh off the bus in LA, and a producer is claiming to you that every role starts with the casting couch.

To resolve the argument-from-authority impasses on the startup's employee agreement, the company reimbursed me to hire a lawyer representing me as an employee. Both for my own interests as an employee, and to provide some kind of balance for the interests of employees in general.

Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by toomuchtodo on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:32PM (#38746677)
I had one for the first time in 20+ years for my last gig out of a Midwest state. Said I wouldn’t take the job if it was forced. They folded.
Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by sidlls on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:35PM (#38746714)
There were non-compete clauses in every employment contract I saw when I started my software career (east coast circa 2005). Companies even tried to weasel them into the independent work contracts they signed with me when I did independent contracting for a while.
Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:36PM (#38746721)
As someone who's been in tech in Texas for nearly 25 years, I've always had to sign a non-compete as a full time employee. It's all state/locale dependent.
Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by photonbeam on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:45PM (#38746823)
Banks have asked me for one, when all the job is writing internal tools, no deep trading secrets
Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by echelon on Saturday December 23, 2023 @03:34PM (#38747943)
Probably easier to apply across the board instead of on a per-role basis.
Re:Tech Hubs Are Losing the Talent War to Everywhere Else by pengaru on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:58PM (#38746969)
It's not just the non-competes though.

California explicitly protects ownership of inventions made on your own time/equipment[0].

AFAIK other states tend to default to employer ownership of inventions.

This alone is a huge win for Cali when it comes to HN/maker type folks...

[0] https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2010/lab/2870-2872.h...