But you would have more moral justification to limit spreading their hate and propaganda which this was about.

Also, it seems you are shadowbanned. You might want to reread and reflect some of your comments and then contact dang.

> But you would have more moral justification to limit spreading their hate and propaganda which this was about.

Absolutely not. There's no moral justification for murder.

Who was talking about murder? This was about cencorship.

> Massacring dance festival attendants and people in their homes is not self defence, it is terrorism.

I agree. The problem is, evidence is surfacing many homes and festival attendants were mowed down by the ones supposed to protect them, IDF (the controversial Hannibal directive). Like this tank filmed by a police helicopter shelling homes in kibbutz Beeri: https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/18mbpxt/is...

So if IDF massacred dance festival attendants and people in their homes, the logical conclusion is they also committed terrorism against their own first-class citizens, not only against those from the other side of the apartheid wall.

"So if IDF massacred dance festival attendants and people in their homes"

Where is the proof for that?

A tank shooting at houses where enemy fighters were dug in?

On the other side there are lots of videos showing Hamas murdering people.

Summarily executing people for thought-crimes does not strike me as particularly aligned with basic humanistic and liberal values.

And tons of Israeli also support rather distasteful things, including before Oct 7, which has been widely documented. Some of these people are currently ministers (e.g. Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, etc.). And many Americans, and Italians, and $any_other_nationality. I don't want to play "tit for tat" here but only for Palestinians have I ever seen the "well, they support Hamas, so therefore it's not a big deal" line of reasoning.

> Well yes, but what if they support the initial terror attacks?

"What if" is the key phrase there. Can you jump into the minds of every Palestinian and know their likes, dislikes, motivations, level of support for Hamas? No, of course not; none of us can.

> Massacring dance festival attendants and people in their homes is not self defence, it is terrorism.

Absolutely agreed. But I'm not convinced what Israel is doing in Gaza is self defense either. There's certainly a self defense component to it, but cutting off electricity, water, and communications, and indiscriminate killing of non-combatants... well, none of that is self defense; those are war crimes.

Israel certainly has the moral right to defend itself against threats (existential or otherwise), but the response needs to be proportionate. I don't believe what they're doing is proportionate.