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Re:Apple allows applications to track user locations without... by dmboyd on Thursday December 21, 2023 @10:51AM (#38722011)
At least in the early days, every iPhone maintained a local lookup table between ssids and gps coordinates in a SQLite database.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/752872/security-apple-o...

Re:Apple allows applications to track user locations without... by tinus_hn on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:01AM (#38722178)
That doesn’t mean seeing an SSID means you are at exactly that location.

If you are in a city you see 50 SSIDs at any given moment. Are you at those 50 locations at the same time? No. Is there a way to triangulate where you are exactly? No, its unreliable and not an exact science.

Re:Apple allows applications to track user locations without... by ycombinatrix on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:27AM (#38722597)
you're all over these comments trying to convince everyone that SSIDs can't be used to determine location, yet you don't know how triangulation works?

are you trolling?

Re:Apple allows applications to track user locations without... by tinus_hn on Thursday December 21, 2023 @02:03PM (#38725130)
The comments are a million people claiming SSID triangulation is the best thing since sliced bread, makes GPS obsolete, guaranteed reliable instant pinpoint location because of this magic technology only understood by the wizards of Hacker News, triangulation.

It’s not. It’s not magic. It has major limitations. It is not reliable. It is not exact. There is a reason phones use GPS.

But hey, if you want to believe it is something it clearly is not, believe whatever you want to believe. It obviously neatly fits the ‘hurr durr Apple bad’ narrative.

Obviously having a discussion on this site is impossible because of the way it promotes hive mind thinking, with its staff approved use of voting as agree/disagree buttons and inhibits discussion with the way you get blocked from posting when people downvote you because you are not in the agreefest. A true embodiment of the hacker spirit indeed. It’s completely worthless and I am through with this thread. I have not been uncivil and not agreeing with the hive mind opinion is not trolling.

Re:Apple allows applications to track user locations without... by charcircuit on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:08AM (#38722297)
>Is there a way to triangulate where you are exactly? No

The phone knows the signal strength of each ssid. Why can't it triangulate where it is?

Re:Apple allows applications to track user locations without... by umanwizard on Thursday December 21, 2023 @11:09AM (#38722310)
It can and does.