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Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by bombcar on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:56AM (#38684178)
The glaring issue I see is that if "integrated" mills start shutting down, where will the old steel scrap for the mini-mills eventually come from?

Someone somewhere has to be making new steel.

Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by bushbaba on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:03AM (#38684294)
Or if demand for steel increases
Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by piuantiderp on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:19AM (#38684555)
Don't worry middle-class and below in the future will: not be able to buy cars, not able to use fossil fuel in any way, very limited in what steel products they can buy.
Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by aziaziazi on Monday December 18, 2023 @12:54PM (#38685852)
From a quick search, China have some integrated Mills. This one is operated in Taiwan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Steel
Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by gourabmi on Monday December 18, 2023 @01:04PM (#38685990)
Short Answer : New steel is coming from overseas.

I think regions / steel industries in the region go through phases. I can draw upon my experience with one of the biggest steel manufacturers in India and Europe. SE Asia is going through a phase where most of the steel consumption is met by primary steel, new steel made from blast furnaces consuming iron ore. A lot of that steel is exported but there is a very big domestic market.

The need for secondary steel (made from old steel scraps) will become important in the future for SE Asia. Back in the US, this is already the case.

Primary and Secondary steel have different properties. Secondary steel can not be used for some applications, they can only use Primary. Vice versa, using primary steel for some applications might not be economically feasible for some applications.

Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by transcriptase on Monday December 18, 2023 @01:34PM (#38686319)
I’m often amazed at the giant steel structures and vehicles that sit decaying along the side of highways for decades.

Whether it’s a case of nobody knows who owns them, regulatory hurdles, economics of breaking it down, or some other reason, I’ve often wondered why something like entire trains can just sit collecting graffiti after a railroad shuts down.

Does anyone have any insight? Is there not an abundance of material that’s recoverable low hanging fruit compared to creating new? Or is the metal recovered not as useful for chemical/physical reasons?

Re:US Steel, once the largest corporation, agrees to sell to... by bombcar on Monday December 18, 2023 @01:47PM (#38686501)
The costs of recovery and recycling outweigh the value of materials.

Where it's borderline, someone owns it and if you steal it you might get found out eventually.

Where it's very profitable, it gets stolen and reprocessed unless guarded (see: copper).

See https://chitransit.org/topic/4239-ex-cnw-pullman-rta-cars-in... for an example.