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Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by joshstrange on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:31AM (#38682152)
I think the state of “build to be acquired” is actually pretty gross and I wouldn’t mind it being pruned back a bit. To call this “overzealous government” is a bit ridiculous. Figma being acquired by Adobe was not good for customers, in most cases the government just allows shit like this to happen, this is the exception, not the rule.
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by robertlagrant on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:46AM (#38682366)
> in most cases the government just allows shit like this to happen

Good. Agreements should as much as possible be free between consenting parties. It shouldn't be normal to expect the government to be involved in approving things except where there's a great reason to need it.

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by Drakim on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:50AM (#38682431)
Especially things like when a company owns the entire town and pays their workers in scrip. Both the company and worker is a consenting party, so the government should stay out of it.

The problem with this ideology is that will destroy society and reduce it to ashes.

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by robertlagrant on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:54AM (#38682479)
You think this is "ideology" that will cause that?

> It shouldn't be normal to expect the government to be involved in approving things except where there's a great reason to need it.

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by cjaybo on Monday December 18, 2023 @09:11AM (#38682756)
We could guess or we could refer to history to here. Maybe you would rather be doomed to repeat it?
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by scarface_74 on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:49PM (#38688028)
Yes because

Step 1: Adobe buys Figma

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Step n: Adobe takes over a small town and forces people to make websites?

Please tell me how the government’s actions has stopped that conclusion.

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by itishappy on Monday December 18, 2023 @09:05AM (#38682656)
Yes. Your quote is an example of the exact ideology that leads to Standard Oil and company towns.
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by robertlagrant on Monday December 18, 2023 @12:44PM (#38685692)
What is that ideology? "Government shouldn't be involved unless there's a great reason to do so"?

If you think preventing company towns isn't a great reason to need approval, fair enough, but then why are you saying company towns are bad?

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by scarface_74 on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:50PM (#38688047)
So exactly how was the government preventing a company town here?

And if a town is dependent on one major employee should we do what exactly?

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by robertlagrant on Monday December 18, 2023 @04:48PM (#38688848)
> So exactly how was the government preventing a company town here?

Where is here?

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by scarface_74 on Monday December 18, 2023 @07:47PM (#38690407)
By stopping Adobe from buying Figma. How exactly has the government stopped Adobe from starting a company town?
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by robertlagrant on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @07:11AM (#38694596)
Sorry, I don't see why you're replying to my comment on this - I wasn't saying Adobe is about to start a company town.
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by scarface_74 on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @07:36AM (#38694792)
Then what exactly is the purpose of bringing up “company towns” in a post about Adobe not being able to buy Figma?
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by itishappy on Monday December 18, 2023 @05:20PM (#38689204)
No. I think anti-trust regulations are really important. Don't you?
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by robertlagrant on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @04:54AM (#38693741)
"unless there's a great reason to do so"

I'm really struggling to understand why you're asking questions tartly instead of just reading what I said, which I tried to make very simple to understand, and replying just as simply.

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by itishappy on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @12:05PM (#38698201)
I've read it. I'm asking questions because I'm struggling to understand the point you're trying to make. I thought I understood, but your response was so far off of my intent that I'm no longer certain.

You said the government shouldn't involve itself "unless there's a great reason to do so," which I interpret as implying you disagree with the reasons. Do you think anti-trust measures are a great reason?

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by scarface_74 on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:47PM (#38687998)
Well seeing that we are talking about software company , I fail to see where this analogy is at all relevant
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by treprinum on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:39AM (#38682268)
Statistically, 90% of startups go belly up, 6% end up as zombies barely scraping by, 3% are acquired and 1% go public.
Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by andruby on Monday December 18, 2023 @09:39AM (#38683097)
I agree with your statistics and want to add extra context that these statistics are about (US?) _startups_. There are a lot of companies being started that don't pursue huge growth. I believe they are sometimes referred to as "mom and pop" shops in the US. In europe they're just called businesses or SME's.

I don't have any numbers and probably more than 50% do fail, but not 90%. Plenty of bakers, restaurants, accountants and small shops succeed in making money for the owners, employment for the staff and value for the customers.

Re:Figma and Adobe are abandoning our proposed merger by scarface_74 on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:46PM (#38687987)
Would you want the government to step in and tell you that you couldn’t sell what you own?