How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book at a Time

Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by porknubbins on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:14PM (#38678537)

I have noticed that advanced mono lingual speakers (ie with higher education or some experience analyzing language) are aware of a huge amount of nuance and meaning in their language encoded in small inflections or grammar. They are thus not always good at narrowing down to the simple thing the accented foreigner is trying to say.

It seems to require some 2nd language learning experience to realize “the 2nd language speaker is probably not advanced enough to know rare idiom X, therefore he probably means much more common idiom Y but has the grammar off.”

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Re:How Africans Are Changing French – One Joke, Rap and Book... by imbnwa on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:48PM (#38678734)

This reminds me of the early years of Mixed Martial Arts where you had lots of Brazilian second language speakers interacting with guys with journalism degrees in MMA journalism at the time who weren’t aware how confusing they sounded using American sports idiom after American sports idiom and the Brazilians would just do their best trying to make sense of what they’re being asked

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