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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by oeta on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:15PM (#38674375)
The contradiction arises because the user "flashback" depicts it as an either-or scenario. It shouldn't be interpreted as an exclusive OR statement; instead, there might be a nuanced interplay between thinking and feeling.
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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by lampiaio on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:41PM (#38674653)
It's weird that we live in a time where my initial reaction upon reading your comment was "this guy is definitely an AI bot". "That" phrasal structure + freshly created account? I'm simultaneously thinking that maybe I'm being unfair to a real human being and that I'm not really sure if I should care at this point... maybe the new machine men with machine hearts will be more humane than the machine men with machine hearts we have today.
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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by oeta on Sunday December 17, 2023 @02:08PM (#38675412)
I apologize if my tone seemed off.
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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by flashback2199 on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:39PM (#38674618)
I think feel isn't precise enough, maybe compassion is better? In the speech, Chaplain opposes the Nazis, yet the main tool the Nazis used to gain and hold power in Germany was by emotion, distributed thru speeches on the radio especially. Hitler was a highly emotional speaker. WWII didn't occur due to a lack of feeling.
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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by bsdpufferfish on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:49PM (#38674708)
Was there more emotional rhetoric than is otherwise used in politics?

Personally the “hitler mind controlled everyone with his speach” theory that I was told in the 90s just isn’t convincing. Facism was in the zeitgeist around the world.

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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by flashback2199 on Sunday December 17, 2023 @01:06PM (#38674861)
No mind control, he said what people wanted to hear after losing WWI

Mind control was how Yuri helped the USSR win the Cold war in Red Alert 2 (joke ;)

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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by bsdpufferfish on Sunday December 17, 2023 @01:46PM (#38675220)
> he said what people wanted to hear after losing WWI

In other words, they believed it. It wasn’t a false manipulation.

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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by PoignardAzur on Monday December 18, 2023 @07:20AM (#38681527)
They believed the "stabbed in the back" narrative like the US establishment believed there were weapons of mass destruction in Irak.

It was a motivated belief, thoroughly uninformed by rational thought, and maintaining and spreading that belief took no small amount of blatant lies and cynicism.

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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by bsdpufferfish on Monday December 18, 2023 @03:34PM (#38687808)
Stabbed in the back, doesn't explain why facism was a popular world view across Europe and Japan.
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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by addicted on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:47PM (#38674695)
It doesn’t sound like an either or. One could potentially think too much
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Re:The Final Speech from The Great Dictator by a_gnostic on Sunday December 17, 2023 @12:56PM (#38674765)
Too many policies are based on too little reason, with too much feeling, all while thinking they're scientific, but without taking human feelings into account, they fail harder each time they are tried. But who am I to know better; Surely with the right person in charge, this time it will work…
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