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Re:Chimera Linux by arp242 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @08:08PM (#38669439)
You are replying to someone who did, so there's your example. There's a bunch of other people in this thread as well – you really don't need to look very far.

"Standard" is one of those words that can mean different things. Insisting on one absolute definition and calling anyone who uses another definition "disingenuous" is not hugely constructive.

Re:Chimera Linux by trenchgun on Sunday December 17, 2023 @04:36AM (#38671611)
Are you saying there is not only one "standard" use of the word "standard"?
Re:Chimera Linux by marcus0x62 on Monday December 18, 2023 @08:44AM (#38682341)
> Insisting on one absolute definition and calling anyone who uses another definition "disingenuous" is not hugely constructive.

It's also ironic coming from someone who's opening salvo was to describe a post about musl being "non-standard" as constituting a "serious allegation".

Re:Chimera Linux by torstenvl on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:45AM (#38684017)
> Insisting on one absolute definition and calling anyone who uses another definition "disingenuous" is not hugely constructive.

Nobody said anything about an absolute definition.

When describing the C standard library, the only reasonable interpretation of "nonstandard" is that it does not adhere to standard C. There are no counter-examples anyone has been able to provide from any corpus.

Re:Chimera Linux by marcus0x62 on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @03:08PM (#38713000)
> When describing the C standard library, the only reasonable interpretation of "nonstandard" is that it does not adhere to standard C

No, that is your interpretation, and one that, so far as I can tell from all of the responses in this thread, you are alone in believing.

> There are no counter-examples anyone has been able to provide from any corpus.

* https://elinux.org/images/1/15/Anatomy_of_Cross-Compilation_... 2016, see page 14 "de facto standard of Linux C libraries"

* https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3417 (June 1999) -- "Linux has now standardized on the GNU C library (glibc) as the common implementation for future Linux systems."

* https://www.reddit.com/r/C_Programming/comments/9g6531/where... "For the standard library, uCLibC and muSL are the two lightweight (and thus likely easier to understand) libraries. GLibC ("libc") is more or less the de-facto standard C library for all non-windows (and even some windows) development."

* https://man.archlinux.org/man/glibc.7 -- "For a while, Linux libc was the standard C library in many Linux distributions."