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Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by FL33TW00D on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:40PM (#38667079)
The lack of interest in abiogenesis in most circles is truly outstanding.
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by sz4kerto on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:10PM (#38667263)
There's quite a bit of interest; e.g. ex-colleagues of mine have spent lots of effort on refining the 'chemoton' model. I think it's a fascinating subject.

"The basic assumption of the model is that life should fundamentally and essentially have three properties: metabolism, self-replication, and a bilipid membrane.[3] The metabolic and replication functions together form an autocatalytic subsystem necessary for the basic functions of life, and a membrane encloses this subsystem to separate it from the surrounding environment. Therefore, any system having such properties may be regarded as alive, and it will be subjected to natural selection and contain a self-sustaining cellular information."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemoton

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/he-may-ha...

Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by borissk on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:45PM (#38668494)
Bilipid membrane is not necessary for life - life may have evolved inside naturally occurring bacteria sized pores inside inorganic material.
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by ianai on Saturday December 16, 2023 @02:47PM (#38667122)
And here’s another thing. With how difficult it is to probe new physics, we stand to do a lot more research by simply inspecting all the observable universe than trying to build colliders.
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by dylan604 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:08PM (#38667249)
Finding a new particle doesn't necessarily threaten strictly up held religious beliefs like finding life somewhere other than this rock
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by local_crmdgeon on Saturday December 16, 2023 @03:55PM (#38667582)
Catholics officially believe in aliens, and that we should save them (if they weren’t visited by Jesus)

Jews wouldn’t care either. Don’t know about Muslims, but it’s not threatening to the other Abrahamic religions

Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by dragonwriter on Saturday December 16, 2023 @04:04PM (#38667660)
> Catholics officially believe in aliens,

A definitive position on the existence of aliens is not part of the Catholic faith.

But, the church admits the possibility and church institutions have done some explorations about what the implications of such contact might be, and how Catholic doctrine might apply to different possibilities.

Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by local_crmdgeon on Saturday December 16, 2023 @04:21PM (#38667796)
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by CamperBob2 on Saturday December 16, 2023 @04:27PM (#38667865)
Catholics officially believe in aliens, and that we should save them (if they weren’t visited by Jesus)

Reminds me of the punch line to an amusing first-contact cartoon, one that makes the (unstated) previous line easy enough to guess: "Yeah, he comes by every couple of years. We gave him a nice box of chocolates when he first visited. What'd you guys do?"

Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by edgyquant on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:30PM (#38668371)
Muslims recite that Allah is “lord of all the worlds” every day. Think they’ll be fine. This is true of every religion I think, it’s only the non religious projecting that state it would “upend widely held beliefs”
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by itishappy on Saturday December 16, 2023 @05:56PM (#38668564)
Inspecting the universe can be a lot harder than building colliders. Observing some of the short-lived high-energy particles would require shipping detectors to a high-energy location like the sun, then pulling a signal from all that noise.
Re:NASA study finds life-sparking energy source and molecule... by scythe on Saturday December 16, 2023 @07:24PM (#38669178)
It's like saying that mathematicians are uninterested in the Collatz conjecture. Scientists usually work on problems where they have a reasonable expectation of making progress. Attempts to replicate abiogenesis so far have been largely haphazard, with ill-defined criteria of what progress means.