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Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by fennecfoxen on Thursday April 19, 2012 @07:04PM (#3865655)
> I do not understand the sledgehammer approach the FBI 'cybercrimes' division deals with things with. ... I'm sorry but covert monitoring of a server is going to be vastly more beneficial for an operation than taking the server and is going to net more targets and more evidence.

I wonder if they'll auction off the server?

Fun fact. The federal government makes ~$3 billion a year off asset seizures. They don't have to charge people with a crime to seize property - the trial is actually conducted against the property itself.) The law enforcement agencies responsible get to keep 50-80% of the proceeds.

http://reason.com/archives/2010/01/26/the-forfeiture-racket/... (disclaimer - source does not pretend to be unbiased ;)

Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by jfoutz on Thursday April 19, 2012 @07:15PM (#3865695)
Yeah, but they have to hold on to that stuff for a while. a 5 year old cash is still cash. a 5 year old computer is a doorstop.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by echo-unity on Thursday April 19, 2012 @07:55PM (#3865814)
I would point out the fallacy in your statement - but I will let you figure it out in the next 5-10 years.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by draggnar on Thursday April 19, 2012 @08:43PM (#3865959)
I believe he is hinting at inflation damaging the value of cash in the next 5 to 10.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by Tuna-Fish on Thursday April 19, 2012 @08:36PM (#3865937)
I would be very interested in the fallacy you see, yet I see none.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by lwat on Thursday April 19, 2012 @08:39PM (#3865950)
Servers lose 90% of their value in 5 years. Cash will not.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by stickfigure on Thursday April 19, 2012 @09:45PM (#3866145)
Readers from Argentina and Zimbabwe might disagree.
Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by jfoutz on Friday April 20, 2012 @12:53AM (#3866543)
2 things.

1. Police are taking at least 20% hit right off the top. so, sure $1000 turns into $750 at 5%, the police are going to be looking at $600 profit, at the very best. a $1000 computer would be more like $100 dollars after five years, in which the police keep $80 bucks.

2. You can pirate all the copyrighted material you want in Argentina and Zimbabwe. Furthermore, neither of those countries really care about property rights. if the government wants your stuff, they just take it anyway.

Re:FBI seizes riseup.net server by dstorrs on Thursday April 19, 2012 @09:31PM (#3866107)
Yes, but the data on the server may still be valuable (e.g. to an identity thief).