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Re:In Indonesia, humanity's oldest art is flaking away. Can ... by thfuran on Thursday December 14, 2023 @08:36PM (#38650034)
Photos only show what camera/film of the time could capture (in some lighting condition), not everything that every possible test could. Just how certain are you that there will never be a technique or technology discovered that would reveal information prior studies didn't?
Re:In Indonesia, humanity's oldest art is flaking away. Can ... by iLoveOncall on Friday December 15, 2023 @03:34AM (#38652226)
I am not and you're probably right, but as I said what can we expect to learn from those paintings that will further human civilization?

At some point the past has nothing to teach anymore.

Re:In Indonesia, humanity's oldest art is flaking away. Can ... by krisoft on Friday December 15, 2023 @06:22AM (#38653060)
> what can we expect to learn from those paintings that will further human civilization.

Perhaps not the painting. Perhaps we develop a technique which can learn from the dust on the ground, or the sediments accumulated in the cave.

It is a very small cost to keep the cave closed. And in the history of humankind we have multiple times destroyed stuff later generations could have learned from.

Just look up for example the history of the Herculaneum papyri[1] and all the attempts to unroll them with destructive methods. Many of those were destroyed forever without being read or only partially read. And it very much seems like we are on the precipice of having the tech to read them non-destructively.[2]

And if all you want is to ogle at the paintings then you can do that in the replica cave?

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herculaneum_papyri 2: https://scrollprize.org/

Re:In Indonesia, humanity's oldest art is flaking away. Can ... by melkor73 on Friday December 15, 2023 @09:05AM (#38654263)
Have you ever read "Collapse" by Jared Diamond? Understanding and learning from that past is literally crucial to the continued existence of the human race. More crucial than any technology anyone here has ever created.

The book directly pulls on the kind of data on early societies that the scientists studying these caves produce.