Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggesting a long fight ahead

Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by MuffinFlavored on Thursday December 14, 2023 @07:22PM (#38649436)

My bigger question is how are any Beeper Mini users getting through (aka how is Beeper Mini's backend getting around the fact that... I thought you needed a valid serial # to an Apple device specific to you to log in + use iMessage)

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by dylan604 on Thursday December 14, 2023 @07:30PM (#38649503)

at some point Serial Box will have a list of valid/invalid hardware serial numbers. or, someone will crack the code to generate valid codes.

oh wait. i drifted off back to the 90s software cracking days.

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by MuffinFlavored on Thursday December 14, 2023 @10:55PM (#38650797)

if apple checks an online database for "you authenticated and paired this hardware ID to this apple ID", is that a "Beeper Mini" killer?

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by rezonant on Thursday December 14, 2023 @11:03PM (#38650851)

What about when the hardware is legitimately sold and reset and a new Apple ID starts using it?

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by chongli on Friday December 15, 2023 @01:00AM (#38651445)

You have to de-register the device with Apple when you sell it. Otherwise you retain the ability to remote wipe and brick the device and the buyer has no recourse.

After you de-register it the buyer can register it with Apple under their Apple ID.

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by dylan604 on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:59AM (#38651441)

isn't that essentially what they are doing? that's one of the reasons a stolen iDevice is pretty much worthless.

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by Wingy on Friday December 15, 2023 @09:36AM (#38654583)

I have Apple devices that are allowed to use iMessage including some that I don't use. If my computer can impersonate one of them to allow me to message from my workstation that's success.

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by MuffinFlavored on Friday December 15, 2023 @12:43PM (#38656522)

> If my computer can impersonate one of them to allow me to message from my workstation that's success.

But Beeper Mini isn't asking users to bring-their-own valid hardware registered Apple hardware ID tied to their Apple ID, they're doing something different/unknown behind the scenes

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by rekoil on Friday December 15, 2023 @07:14AM (#38653374)

Apple doesn't have predictable serial numbers anymore, they're all just random numbers corresponding to rows in a database. There's no way to generate them.

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by dylan604 on Friday December 15, 2023 @10:19AM (#38654984)

It wasn't a serious idea. The fact I mentioned it along side Serial Box should have been a clue. Maybe you're too young to know what Serial Box was, or the 90s cracking culture. Shh, the adults are speaking =)

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Re:Apple partly halts Beeper's iMessage app again, suggestin... by rekoil on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @05:52PM (#38714728)

No, I remember Serial Box, serials.ws, MegaGames, scene intros, etc. I just have trouble determining tone on the internet sometimes is all.

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