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Re:Etsy is laying off 11% of its staff by golergka on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:31PM (#38631928)
> What if you had unions or proper labor laws that actually guaranteed this?

Then hiring would be much more expensive, much less new companies would be able to start up, and as a result, salaries in tech would be 2-3 times lower, like in Europe.

What would you choose, a 2-3 times higher salary or a guarantee of things that you would often get anyway?

Re:Etsy is laying off 11% of its staff by matsemann on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:47PM (#38632216)
What about non-tech workers? Don't they deserve the same?

The fact that you have no security net in the US is probably also harmful when it comes to startups. Few can take the risk.

Re:Etsy is laying off 11% of its staff by coldpie on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:36PM (#38632034)
The guarantee, provided all my neighbors also get it. US tech salaries are way too high.
Re:Etsy is laying off 11% of its staff by piva00 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @02:26PM (#38632869)
> What would you choose, a 2-3 times higher salary or a guarantee of things that you would often get anyway?

If it meant a guarantee for all workers, allowing people to not become desperate enough to become porch pirates, or break into cars to steal stuff, or point a gun to my head because I have more stuff than them, or any other social malaise fanned by the lack of safety nets, I'd take the guarantee 10 out of 10 times.

Re:Etsy is laying off 11% of its staff by squigz on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:34PM (#38631983)
The guarantee.
Re:Etsy is laying off 11% of its staff by JohnFen on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:44PM (#38632181)
The guarantee.