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Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by dmezzetti on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:04AM (#38626732)
This is only true if you start with "We have to use AI, let's find a problem". There are plenty of production-ready use cases such as retrieval augmented generation (RAG) and generative AI to assist with the creative writing or illustration process.

There are also plenty of ways to spend way more money than necessary. Plenty of great open source solutions that have almost caught up as we end 2023.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by andy99 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:10AM (#38626795)
> There are plenty of production-ready use cases

Even if that's true, the big money is being spent in the belief that some bigger more valuable thing will be unlocked by future advances, not on better engineering well understood uses. The technology has some value but the behavior around it is still driven by bubble "it will be valuable later" behavior rather than current uses.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by OJFord on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:15AM (#38626843)
> This is only true if you start with "We have to use AI, let's find a problem".

Sure. Don't say that like it's rare!

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by Ensorceled on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:19AM (#38626885)
> This is only true if you start with "We have to use AI, let's find a problem".

You've just described the crypto boom ... but at least AI has actual use cases and actually will solve problems.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by Shermanium on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:28AM (#38627016)
reminds me of the phrase "if your only tool is a hammer, every problem has to be a nail."
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by chx on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:51AM (#38627319)
> but at least AI has actual use cases and actually will solve problems.

Maybe some time in the future but the current generative "AI" can not (let me repeat: can not) solve anything. I am sitting here astonished watching the entire world lose their minds over a stochastic parrot.

Did y'all not learn anything from the crypto bubble? Mostly it's the same hustlers, ChatGPT got rushed to the market the moment the crypto craze sort of ended with the collapse of FTX. Someone is making a lot of money here... but it ain't you.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by RugnirViking on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:14AM (#38627642)
I use AI dozens if not hundreds of times a day as part of my job... It certainly "solves" a lot of stuff for me :)
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by Ensorceled on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:38AM (#38629857)
> Maybe some time in the future but the current generative "AI" can not (let me repeat: can not) solve anything.

I know for a fact that it is putting marketing copywriters out of jobs.

I used ChatGPT 3 times yesterday to generate code snippets that I could have figured out myself but took a couple of prompts using ChatGPT.

I've used ChatGPT dozens of times in my D&D campaign for things like "generate a bunch of random dwarves with names and occupations, don't use Tolkien names"

People who say it "can not solve anything" are delusional.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by kaashif on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:17AM (#38627668)
What? So many people are using AI to solve real problems right now.

GitHub Copilot is a good example. It may just be a glorified autocomplete, but it's really good and sometimes predicts 20 line functions exactly as I'd have written them.

Really good stochastic parrots are useful.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by Sai_ on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:08AM (#38626780)
Don’t think the AI ELO ratings agree with you.
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by mistercheph on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:17AM (#38627673)
You mean the ratings that show a language model you can run on consumer hardware today within 100 ELO points of Industry SOTA?
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by phpisthebest on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:08AM (#38626783)
The path of creative AI has to be the most Ironic story of this whole technological tale.

The AI Utopia that was imaged was a world of AI robots all doing our labor so everyone can sit around being "creative" and artist, no on would have to clean the streets, pickup trash, work in that factory etc... We would have a utopia where humans would just be free loving creatives all sitting around painting, writing their great novels, etc...

The reality it, Humans will doing that manual labor for decades to come has AI replaces all creative jobs in a much quicker time...

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by dmezzetti on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:46AM (#38627254)
That is indeed interesting. For years, there was talk of manufacturing, trade jobs and "hands-on" work going away. 4 year college degrees were the only answer. Interesting that it might be the opposite in the end.

Lot of the upcoming automation is going to be on the soft skill side. Those with kids now need to reset how they think of trade jobs and hands on work. It should be an option that is considered and certainly not frowned upon.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by phpisthebest on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @01:03PM (#38631432)
#LearnToDig will be the new rally cry...

The problem is we have spent at least 3 generations looking down on physical labor, first world societies are in for some bad times. For me it looks like those bad times will get really bad in about 20 years, right when I should on a beach enjoying retirement, instead who knows....

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by kaashif on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:18AM (#38627689)
> Those with kids now need to reset how they think of trade jobs and hands on work.

This is already true even in the absence of AI.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by adql on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:17AM (#38626858)
Utopia like that requires people in power to work toward it, not their own bank account state.

No tech is going to change that.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by phpisthebest on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:40AM (#38627163)
Utopia is not possible in the first place, that is what I find amusing in this whole story... the number of people that believe it is.

Self Interest is core to the human experience people deny that at their own peril, it is why I believe in capitalism and reject socialism, i understand that all persons at all times work in their self interest anyone that claims their are not is lying to themselves.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by orange-mentor on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:07PM (#38637661)
Read Thomas Hobbes. Really read it and try to absorb it.
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by phpisthebest on Thursday December 14, 2023 @03:26AM (#38639085)
I prefer Locke
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by pixl97 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:04AM (#38627475)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

The idea that higher intelligence has only been around 200,000 or so years and is far less refined than motor intelligence which has a good 500 million years of encoded information.

Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by laichzeit0 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @08:32AM (#38627068)
Also software development. I would gladly keep on paying for copilot if it just does what it does right now. It makes writing code (the part I find least interesting in software development) just a tad bit less boring.
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by RyanHamilton on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @10:07AM (#38628427)
What parts do you like?
Re:Most companies using AI are 'lighting money on fire,' say... by sensanaty on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @09:39AM (#38627978)
I can only speak for the company I work for, but that's more or less exactly the mindset the C-suite has about AI. The CTO nerds out on it so wants to work on it for the sake of saying he works with AI (nothing inherently wrong with that mind you, I can respect a genuine nerd moment like that), and the CEO sees our competitors pushing out AI solutions (aka calling OpenAI's APIs) and demands we "do this AI thing everyone else is doing".

It's just a hypewave of people following eachother blindly without stopping to consider why we need an AI in the first place. We're not doing anything groundbreaking with it, in fact half the features we're shitting out with our AI experiments are things that have existed for a decade at this point, except we can now label it as an AI thing.