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Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by imp0cat on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @03:46AM (#38624418)
Or just push the button on your steering wheel and use voice control. You (mostly) do not have to touch the screen at all.
Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by jacquesm on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @03:59AM (#38624536)
This was exclusively in the context of where you do need to use the touch screen. Which I think should be outlawed for automotive applications.
Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by piva00 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @04:06AM (#38624588)
Voice control is imprecise. You are forgetting about us folks whom are not native in one of the supported languages for voice control and constantly have to adapt our accents to the whims of speech recognition. And the right incantation of command for the task.

It's not impossible, just a very annoying way to control something precisely.

Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by gambiting on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @04:40AM (#38624860)
>>Or just push the button on your steering wheel and use voice control

It's literally the worst way to interact with anything. It's infuriating how bad it is, especially for someone whose first language isn't English. It understands maybe 20% of the commands I give it, and the delay between clicking the button, it doing the "bong" to indicate it's ready, then listening to my command, then it processing and finally giving me a response(usually "sorry I didn't understand that") is just horrendous.

Not to mention that it's still physically impossible to use voice controls to dial people with non-English names if you have your OS set to English - try saying "Dial Jan Szczepanek" and it will never recognize it, no matter how you pronounce it. If you have OS set to Polish it will work fine, but I cannot be expected to keep switching my OS language!

Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by glandium on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @06:34AM (#38625836)
My new car has voice control too. It's actually not too bad at recognizing what it's said (that is, it properly displays in text what was spoken, most the time), but it usually can't handle the commands properly.

However, it also has a "hey Google" like feature, where it's always listening and triggers voice control when it hears the words, without the push of a button. And it triggers randomly when I'm talking with my wife, even when we say nothing remotely close to the keyword.

Funnily enough, we also didn't know this feature existed, and neither did the dealership. So for a while we thought it was a random bug. Eventually, my wife figured it's a feature, and it can thankfully be turned off.

Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by imp0cat on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @07:05AM (#38626147)
Right, I feel your pain, bilingual Android Auto sucks. I wouldn't use voice control to call someone (luckily there is a dedicated button on the steering wheel for that).

But for other stuff (changing tracks or albums - "play xxx from spotify") it works just fine for me. And yes, I use a louder "computer" or "command" voice when talking to digital assistants (had to learn how to do that to control Amazon's Alexa devices). ;)

Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by thaumasiotes on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:51AM (#38630095)
> But for other stuff (changing tracks or albums - "play xxx from spotify") it works just fine for me.

Does that work with foreign titles? Dragostea Din Tei? 爱的就是你?

Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by thaumasiotes on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @05:04AM (#38625086)
> Not to mention that it's still physically impossible to use voice controls to dial people with non-English names if you have your OS set to English - try saying "Dial Jan Szczepanek" and it will never recognize it, no matter how you pronounce it. If you have OS set to Polish it will work fine, but I cannot be expected to keep switching my OS language!

This is just the modern allergy to allowing user configuration. (God forbid someone use your software to do what they want to do!) The problem was solved in the 90s, when speech-to-text sucked, by letting you define your own words.

https://www.speechrecsolutions.com/tutorials/Customizing_Dra...

Obviously, that solution will still work today.

But you are still allowed to configure your contact information, so there's an obvious solution: instead of calling him Jan Szczepanek, just call him John Stevenson. Everyone wins! ;D

Re:GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto beca... by csixty4 on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @05:41AM (#38625408)
I would use voice control more to pick my music if it would stop misinterpreting me. When I ask for my XYZ playlist on Youtube Music, I'm not asking for the song X by some artist I've never heard of. And when I ask for directions to a place I go to at least once a week, it shouldn't try to navigate me to somewhere halfway across the state.

It's just not reliable enough for everyday use.