Lastly you don’t know well documented history connecting Jews to that area for millennia with evidence of Jews inhabiting that area before even Mohammed was born. People who belong in the area and who furthermore buy large portions of it are not colonizers by any definition of the word.
a very zionist talking point
> history of British Palestine Mandate, history of Jews buying land in that area and UN offering a partition that Jews accepted while Arabs did not.
british conquered that land yes. that dosen't mean they had the moral authority to give it away to people who weren't from there.
> Lastly you don’t know well documented history connecting Jews to that area for millennia with evidence of Jews inhabiting that area
I don't know how anyone in teh west wouldn't know given that jesus was a Palestinian JEW and abraham the original jew was from iraq.
there have been palestinian jews there the whole time. they coexisted just fine with the other arabs. what hasn't been fine is europeans coming in and driving out the locals because they claim they own the land based on a 3000 year gap. I mean thats freaking ludicrous. by that same logic, descendents of slaves here in america are entitled to a plot of land in africa somwhere. as does every irish and italian immigrant in the united states to their respective home countries.
dibs passed down by imaginary sky daddy in your magic book does not constitute a legitemate chain of custody in any raional society. In any other circumstance, it would be harmless fun but people are literally being genocided over this.
Israel exists and we can't really go back at this point but at the very least we need acknowledge that the apartheid israel is running is a human rights violation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH8JrDGZD2k&ab_channel=Decla...
I suspect that you believe that Jews colonized British Mandate Palestine in 19th and 20th century culminating with the creation of the state of Israel.
I also suspect that you believe that the state of Israel doesn’t have the right to exist and need to cease its existance
they took land that didn't belong to them by gunpoint and forced the locals to relocate. Thats Is TEXTBOOK colonization. Its bad enough that it happened in teh past. the fact that they are CONTINUING to do it in the west bank just cements my opinion about that.
> I suspect that you believe that Jews colonized British Mandate Palestine in 19th and 20th century culminating with the creation of the state of Israel
yes becuse nothing is more important the opions of 19tha nd 20th century white populated countries when it comes to the affairs of people in their coloies
> I also suspect that you believe that the state of Israel doesn’t have the right to exist and need to cease its existance
I used to believe in a 2 state solution. maybe it could still work. but after seeing what zionists have been doing to palestinians for the last 50 years (and esspecially the last 3 months) I think its best if all the european jews in israel went back to their respective countries. more of us out here are feeling that way after seeing just how straight up EVIL the IDF is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybyUTIU-qo&ab_channel=DWDoc... (3 years aho)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMYEHhCkedo&ab_channel=TheGu...)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LumgWaM72nU&ab_channel=Mondo...)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coOptDiwyrU&ab_channel=SkyNe...)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtECuh15Rw&ab_channel=AlJaz...)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&ab_channel=TRTWo...)
can you explain to me why the IDF doesn't enforce teh UN rules equally and keep settlers out of the west bank whihch the UN rules belongs to Palestinians?
can you expalin why children as young as 10 years old are held in military prisons and military courts with no accesss to due process and sentanced to as much as a decade for throwing a rock?
can you explain why Israelis are filing in wells with concrete?
can you explain why why the IDF needed to execute women and children sheltering from the seige in a school? they were shot close to point blank range
I suspect that you are strongly biased. but the zionist arguemnt falls apart pretty quickly by anyone actually doing any reserach with an unbiasted view.
it really falls down to "god promised it to us" "british people promised it to us" "it was ours 3000 years ago"
NONE of thses arguments would be valid for ANY other people. so why are zionists so special in this regard? what makes you so special that you can commit HEINOUS human rights violations on MY TAX dollars?
Again, I used to be supportive of a 2 stage solution but after these last two months, yes, I'm strongly on the side of the palestinians at thsi point. for the same rason I would have sided with jews during the holocaust and black africans during teh apartheid.
to put it susccinctly
I'd rather be a black man in america than a uighur in china but Id rather be a uighur in china than a palestinian in gaza.
you wanna show that israel is a beacon of democracy in the middle east? how about demonstrating first that its not an authoritarian ethnostate with good PR.
a good start would be NOT jailing israeli citizens for speaking out against the genocide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5SMzQzdnZw&ab_channel=Democ...)
how is that antisemetic? not all jews support israel in the first place and zionism != judaism.
also, they ARE colonizers. they are building luxury homes on land taken from people who were there without any compensation and forced to live in a ghetto.
Basicly zionists did to palestinians what europeans did to jews. Its shocking to me because up till recently I mistakenly expected the jewish people to be more compassionate given their history.