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Re:SpaceX's next Starship flight could test refueling tech by cratermoon on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:30PM (#38622672)
No Saturn V launch failed. The very first all-up test of the Saturn V, Apollo 4, was a complete success. Apollo 6 was mostly a success, aside from the failure of the S-IVB to restart, and no part of the vehicle was lost. Every crewed launch of the Saturn V was a success, the Apollo 13 failures were unrelated to the Saturn V. For the uncrewed launch of Skylab on SA-513 the booster's S-IC and S-II stages worked normally. The third stage was Skylab itself, a converted S-IVB. It reached orbit successfully despite sustaining severe damage resulting in the loss of the station's micrometeoroid shield/sun shade and one of its main solar panels.

The "accidental abort test" was launched on a Little Joe II, a simple single-stage solid rocket motor, not a Saturn of any variety. This booster was unrelated to any Saturn hardware.

Re:SpaceX's next Starship flight could test refueling tech by ceejayoz on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @06:26AM (#38625783)
So, if Starship killed a crew of three in a pre-launch rehearsal like Apollo 1 did, you’d be on here defending it as not a problem?

If the Starship second stage failed to restart causing it to fail to get to TLI, or tried to take out its manned crew like 13 did, you’d be claiming it’s still a sterling safety record?

You’d have considered this test a success if it reached orbit “despite sustaining severe damage” on the way up?

Come on.

> Every crewed launch of the Saturn V was a success

Fine. Same for Starship, so far.

“My hunch is that whatever happens, we'll see scenes of Apollo people clapping and cheering and Apollo fans calling the flight a success. From what they tell me, no Apollo launch has ever failed.”

Re:SpaceX's next Starship flight could test refueling tech by cratermoon on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @11:40AM (#38629905)
It's ok to just say, "You're right, I was wrong". Try it some time, you might be surprised how much better you feel about yourself.
Re:SpaceX's next Starship flight could test refueling tech by ceejayoz on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @02:30PM (#38632956)
Does this approach work for you often?