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A comment on Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM?.

Re:Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM? by whalesalad on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @05:41PM (#38619747)
Startups can move fast and break things. Google cannot. I think they'll surpass OpenAI relatively quickly just based on the sheer volume of data that they possess for training, combined with the size of their GPU compute. It's just a matter of time. Gemini is already outperforming GPT-4 on paper, we just haven't been able to use it yet.
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Re:Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM? by pennomi on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @05:53PM (#38619918)
The current mid-sized model they’ve released for Gemini is pretty garbage, and fails all the tests I personally use to separate the smart LLMs from the stupid ones. I can run several local models faster and better.
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Re:Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM? by surbas on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @06:26PM (#38620279)
Which ones?
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Re:Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM? by guessbest on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @06:36PM (#38620392)
People don't like advertising. Google is an advertising company. The more these AI models get corrupted with advertising the more likely they are to take a lead. That the reason they don't dominate in cloud storage. Where's the competitive advantage in embedding advertising in people's personal and publicly shared documents?
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Re:Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM? by amadeuspagel on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @06:58PM (#38620651)
Google Drive dominates cloud storage[1].

[1]: https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/file-sharing--198/goog...

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Re:Ask HN: What prevents Google from having the leading LLM? by guessbest on Thursday December 14, 2023 @05:05PM (#38647969)
I have a hard time believing that, but if that website says so, it must be true. I would wonder if they are including gmail users as well as all android users, but I don't know their methodology. If they include all android users, they should include all ios users for Apple Music and iTunes since Apple stores their music on Microsoft Azure, which last I checked is the same thing OneDrive uses.
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