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Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by bambax on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:16PM (#38615166)
> YouTube is a monopoly and is addictive

Youtube is indeed a monopoly -- but it's not actually addictive. Since they started this war against adblockers I have found that I can perfectly live without it.

When I absolutely would like to watch an informative video (for example, about how to fix something on my bike, etc.), I first try to open the video in a private window (with ublock on); if that also doesn't work I try to use yt-dlp.

But I have completely stopped mindlessly watching videos that are not the result of a search.

There's nothing necessary about youtube.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by KMnO4 on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:50PM (#38615682)
> but it's not actually addictive

Youtube is definitely addictive to a large population of people. If you can live without it, the only thing we can infer is that it's not addictive to you.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by BobaFloutist on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @03:05PM (#38617652)
Maybe it's habit-forming but not addictive?
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by reactordev on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @04:23PM (#38618780)
This is a more scientifically accurate description. It’s not addictive in the sense that your brain craves it’s chemicals but it definitely is habit-forming, watching video after video after video on electric motors and their construction has sent me down rabbit holes. Software topics, talks, how to’s, engineering channels, gaming drivel, it’s definitely a habit.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by rurp on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @04:12PM (#38618615)
Being addictive doesn't mean that that literally everyone who uses it will become addicted. Most people who use alcohol, or pain killers, or gamble can stop without much trouble; that doesn't mean that there aren't a subset of users who get dangerously addicted.

It's great that you're in the majority of people who aren't addicted to Youtube, but that doesn't mean everyone has the same experience that you do.

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by bambax on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @04:56PM (#38619223)
> Being addictive doesn't mean that that literally everyone who uses it will become addicted

Not everyone, sure, but a majority. People can get addicted to anything; yet we don't just call any activity addictive -- only those where most people have a hard time controlling their behavior.

I don't think watching youtube qualifies (not just being on your phone, or watching tv).

Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by swid on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @11:03PM (#38622505)
YouTube is probably more addictive than gambling, and it’s pretty clear and accepted some minority of people get addicted to that.
Re:YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads by johnnyanmac on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @07:52PM (#38621180)
Congrats (kind of), but we can't view "addiciton" in a microcosm of 1. And regardless, addiction isn't the term I'd use to describe the problem. maybe more like all-encompassing.

But the real problem is that Youtube makes all this money but it still took a decade+ to start looking profitable. It's extremely hard to compete with them even if you somehow got over the network effects because it's hard to make money while also paying content creators. Google could do it because they could commoditize youtube's early unprofitability to their ads revenue.

Ideally, something like Netflix spawns and lets "amateur" content creators host as well, which solves many problems. But netflix doesn't seem interested and the few competitors doing that are still in the discovery phase.