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Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by haolez on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:41PM (#38605903)
I think it's a fair definition. If you are running it from home, should you also create your own ISP to be able to call yourself "self-hosted"? Your own power generator? :)
Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by lucb1e on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:46PM (#38605974)
Yeah that's a fair point. There is a line to be drawn somewhere, and most people don't run their own email server. Administering one on a rented server somewhere can be considered self-hosting your email (ahem, did I say server? I meant Cloud! Apologies)

Maybe what bothered me about the section I quoted, is that they're explicitly using the free tier and allegedly didn't give the hosting company (Oracle) any billing information. So they cannot possibly be paying for their use. It's sorta not really theirs but, instead, a charity from Oracle (there's three words I never thought I'd put together)

Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by JohnFen on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:43PM (#38605935)
Those aren't apt analogies. "Self-hosted" means "on your own hardware". It isn't talking about your internet feed or power generation.
Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by zakki on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:15PM (#38606226)
Can't agree more. And the article mentions that they use free tier. It is not their server for sure.
Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by Arch-TK on Monday December 11, 2023 @04:45PM (#38605962)
> "Self-hosted" means "on your own hardware".

Does it? This is not the definition I've come accustomed to.

Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by JohnFen on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:03PM (#38606122)
Until recently, I've never heard it used to mean anything else. If you're running your stuff in the cloud, wouldn't that be "cloud-hosted"?

If "self-hosted" now includes cloud-hosted, then what should we call things that are actually self-hosted? The distinction matters. We should have a term.

Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by haolez on Monday December 11, 2023 @05:41PM (#38606473)
I usually understand that as "you manage it".
Re:The web services I self-host (2022) by howrar on Wednesday December 13, 2023 @12:42AM (#38623165)
Whenever I read about anything self-hosted, it's always about not being reliant on a single third party to provide the services you need. If you control the software and the data, you can easily move everything from one cloud provide to another or to your own hardware. Whether or not you own the hardware has no bearing on this.