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Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by Kubuxu on Sunday December 10, 2023 @08:02AM (#38591265)
Nothing prevents C&C from being fronted by cloudflare.
Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by viraptor on Sunday December 10, 2023 @08:06AM (#38591288)
And CloudFlare will be extremely happy to let them hide there. They don't care about malware abusing their workers infra.

But also "Only allow HTTPS out to FAANG" - ok, so now you're allowing encrypted connections to 2 largest cloud providers. At that point what's the benefit at all?

Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by jay-barronville on Sunday December 10, 2023 @10:30AM (#38592166)
> They [Cloudflare] don't care about malware abusing their workers infra.

This is a serious allegation to make. Do you happen to have some supporting evidence?

Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by fullspectrumdev on Sunday December 10, 2023 @11:22AM (#38592603)
It’s widely known and talked about in the infosec community - getting CF to do anything about malicious content on their services is an absolute nightmare.

I do understand they don’t want to set any bad precedents internally, but their abuse reporting is abysmal.

Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by jay-barronville on Sunday December 10, 2023 @11:40AM (#38592773)
Do you have some supporting evidence?
Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by averageRoyalty on Sunday December 10, 2023 @03:36PM (#38594797)
Is it needed? Most hosting companies and CDNs are difficult to get to remove malicious content, this is pretty well known. I don't know why we'd require some form of irrefutable evidence to believe Cloudflare isn't the same.
Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by viraptor on Sunday December 10, 2023 @04:53PM (#38595443)
Just search for CloudFlare worker abuse. There's lots of stories like this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37064311 , larger campaigns like https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/blackwater-ma... , DDoS campaigns originating from workers https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38496499

It's kinda hard to point to someone saying how big the problem is, because most posts are just "sigh, here's yet another example, anyway...". I wouldn't go as far as saying they're doing this as an intended strategy, but it's definitely a case of it being hard for CloudFlare to care about an issue when they're in business of selling protection from that issue.

Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by jay-barronville on Sunday December 10, 2023 @06:06PM (#38595937)
Thank you for providing links instead of giving me a “just believe me, bro” type of response. I’m about to take a look at them.

As a side note, I’m actually amused that I got downvoted for simply asking for evidence. I think it’s a pretty reasonable to ask folks to substantiate serious allegations made against a company like Cloudflare (a company, I might add, I’m not even a fan of for my own personal/philosophical reasons). I find this behavior very cult-like, but anyway, I digress…

Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by sambull on Sunday December 10, 2023 @12:57PM (#38593389)
One mans C&C server is anothers RMM.
Re:Stealthy Linux rootkit found in the wild after going unde... by llamaInSouth on Sunday December 10, 2023 @01:23PM (#38593593)
Im pretty sure he was joking anyways... Either way, I thought it was funny.