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Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by jfernandezr on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:18AM (#38580923)
Spanish here. You're overtly exaggerating, Spain is not becoming a dictatorship. This is the right and far-right having a tantrum because they've not been able to secure a government. Go spread your propaganda elsewhere.
Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by gafage on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:47AM (#38581112)
That's a bit of an over-simplification of what actually happened these weeks. Or a tremendous over-simplification, rather.

Not that I really care about the outcome (two parties could've won, and they are both progressive, so I will be unhappy either way), but the methods have crossed a few red lines.

Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by alfonsodev on Saturday December 09, 2023 @07:03AM (#38581230)
might be an over-simplification but is right. Every year there are "indultos" (pardons?) happening, the famous Aznar's ones[1], and Rajoy's infamous "aministia fiscal"[2] but I guess is only now when it's convenient to push that narrative, no protests whatsoever for the other cases.

Amnistia for tax evaders, it is democracy.

Amnistia for those protesting making a performance-like referedum (everyone knew it would not actual effect), that's not democracy.

It's a logic that I can not comprehend, I only can explain it if you consume so much mass media that you actually believe everything that is thrown at you.

[1] https://www.eldiario.es/catalunya/gobierno-aznar-indulto-dia....

[2] https://www.eldiario.es/economia/rato-franco-narco-100-benef...

Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by gafage on Saturday December 09, 2023 @07:08AM (#38581263)
It's not the same when you do it because you need it to be the president.

I don't agree with pardons; it's something that simply shouldn't exist in this day and age. It doesn't matter to me what brand of progressivism does it.

Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by germandiago on Saturday December 09, 2023 @07:20AM (#38581350)
I am a close relative of a judge. I have asked plenty of non-media questions to get an idea of how our system works, should work and what does not work and did not for a long time (and now we have problems because the situation changed).

By the way, I am not against independence FWIW. It is just the way things have been conducted are very aggraviating.

Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by egloeda on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:59PM (#38584037)
It is very sad that the US Government cannot be trusted but this is not the first time this has happened, the German Chancellor's phone was tapped.

On the other hand Spain started a revolutionary process of a constituent nature, the government of President Sanchez is already of a clearly totalitarian type.

As a Spaniard I see a dark future.

Re:Spain expels two US spies for infiltrating secret service by germandiago on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:14PM (#38584887)
I agree with you. They say we exaggerate.

No, we do not. The degradation of institutions in these five years is aggraviating.