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Re:If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing by WendyTheWillow on Saturday December 09, 2023 @05:13AM (#38580486)
Re:If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing by Tryk on Saturday December 09, 2023 @05:25AM (#38580558)
Hobbes was not the last (nor the first) person who thought about the social contract. As you put it in another comment:

Allow me to blow your mind https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism-contempo...

Re:If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing by WendyTheWillow on Saturday December 09, 2023 @05:36AM (#38580623)
So you understand now what makes piracy so uninterestingly immoral? So clearly a violation then, enacted by free riders who wish only to benefit from the effort and concession of others?
Re:If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing by Jochim on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:07AM (#38580837)
> enacted by free riders who wish only to benefit from the effort and concession of others?

You mean like doing something once and then expecting to be paid for it in perpetuity?

Expecting to be paid for the efforts of others, decades after their death?

Redefining the legal system in order to prevent others from carrying out the, distribution?

I'm much more concerned about those free riders than a teen with no way to pay for digital goods, someone who couldn't afford it, or someone who'd like to keep the things they pay for.

Re:If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing by WendyTheWillow on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:03PM (#38584712)
If that's what the owner of the work wants, that's what they're entitled to. It's theirs.

Besides, the concern isn't pirating The Sound of Music. The concern is pirating Game of Thrones or Euphoria. That's what's being discussed here. You can obviously find exceptions to the general rule of "piracy is immoral" but it is the general rule.

Re:If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing by MrVandemar on Saturday December 09, 2023 @07:11AM (#38581285)
> his substantive conclusions have served mostly as a foil for the development of more palatable philosophical positions.

Doesn't sound like he's held in high regard, except possibly to take a position to debate against.

And then there's this ...

https://www.existentialcomics.com/comic/525