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Re:The pro-Israel information war by Natsu on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:53PM (#38578391)
Israel has allowed civilian aid in, does "knocking" to reduce deaths from their bombing, supplied the water Palestine was using to begin with, etc. so when Hamas fighters have literally been robbing the civilians of the food aid, it rings a bit hollow.

It's weird that you want to ignore how we ended up with the current borders to begin with (let's just ignore the war that was started, then lost), ignore the peace deals they signed and reneged on, the intifadas, etc. in this analysis.

Re:The pro-Israel information war by megous on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:15AM (#38579159)
> Israel has allowed civilian aid in...

Yeah, I also do (sometimes, not often, yeah) "knock" a few minutes before I kill someone along with their entire extended family, just so that it's all legit. Fuck the criples who can't move fast enough, they deserve it anyway. And then I (sometimes) don't shoot at other people that try to bring aid to my surviving victims. I allow aid, you know. Much better than just giving it. Although I've killed about 110 of those UN aid people, hm. But! I still demand to inspect and delay/ban aid at will. And I also "israelsplain" the situation to the people on the Internets, because apparently it's so hard for people to understand how moral and fair I am. And Internets still hate and flag me, those anti-semites. Whatever. I have the guns to do what I want anyway, whatever UN or internets blabber about rights or intl. law or somesuch.

Such high morals. :D /s

Re:The pro-Israel information war by dang on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:19AM (#38579165)
You can't post like this to HN, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong others are or you feel they are. This is exactly the sort of comment that my pinned comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38573652) is asking users not to post to this thread (or indeed any thread).

We have to ban accounts that keep posting like this, so please don't do it again.

(Needless to say, this goes for both sides of the conflict, not just one.)

Re:The pro-Israel information war by megous on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:27AM (#38579206)
Would sourcing every single point in my sarcastic comment help? Or should I just not use sarcasm?
Re:The pro-Israel information war by dang on Saturday December 09, 2023 @03:27PM (#38585694)
I'm never quite clear on what the word "sarcasm" means but I think the answer to your question is yes, you should just not use it - at least not in an aggressively-argumentative way. The guidelines try to cover this with rules like "Be kind. Don't be snarky." (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).
Re:The pro-Israel information war by dang on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:21AM (#38579178)
> It's weird that you want to ignore

Please make your substantive points without swipes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:The pro-Israel information war by Natsu on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:41AM (#38579624)
That's fair, I will try to do better, but this is a hard one to discuss neutrally. There's a huge mess, it has long been a huge mess, and a lot of people want to focus on only half of the story.
Re:The pro-Israel information war by dang on Saturday December 09, 2023 @03:26PM (#38585674)
Yes, and everyone has a different half of the story that they want to focus on, and a lot of the time we struggle to include, or even acknowledge, the other "halves".

I know it's extremely difficult. But it's work that we all have to do together if we want our community to survive.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html