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Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by SaberTail on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:47PM (#38577501)
Apple wouldn't even exist if not for this type of hacking. One of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak's first projects was selling blue boxes[1] to play around on AT&T's telephone system.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box

Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 08, 2023 @08:56PM (#38577587)
> One of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak's first projects was selling blue boxes

Which didn’t scale because it doesn’t scale because the blue box stopped working. Sort of like Beeper.

Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by lofaszvanitt on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:08AM (#38579414)
Beeper's true purpose was to show people that it's possible without an iPhone. What you don't know how many other clients like this worked and for how long...
Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by latexr on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:31AM (#38581007)
> Beeper's true purpose was to show people that it's possible without an iPhone.

What’s your basis for saying that? Honestly asking. Seems like Beeper’s true purpose could just as well have been to make money.

Of course this is possible without an iPhone. Apple could build it anytime they want, they just don’t. Which I disagree with, but that’s a different argument.

Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by epistasis on Friday December 08, 2023 @10:58PM (#38578417)
And the penalty for getting caught wasn't merely having your connection turned off, it was a trial.

Selling a device that transgressed the boundaries doesn't mean they thought that no boundaries should exist, it just means they knew it was possible to do something technically interesting and would allow them to make money.

If Jobs and Woz thought there should be now penalties for using blue boxes, my guess is that they thought the telco should merely implement a better system, not that everybody should get free access to it.

Re:Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access by zer0zzz on Friday December 08, 2023 @11:48PM (#38578695)
This should be the top comment