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Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by photoGrant on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:17PM (#38564598)
I like it mainly because this probably is limiting electric bikes more than restricting cars. It's a lil' difficult for cars to hit 50 /too often/ and I say this anecdotally but those bikes in a very 'bike friendly' city are blurring lines and only getting faster.
Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by jeroenhd on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:28PM (#38564672)
Electric bicycles aren't allowed to exceed 25km/h anyway, so legally only human-powered bikes can exceed the 30km/h speed limit. If the owners messed with their bikes to override the speed limiter, I doubt they'll care about the 30km/h signs.

Mopeds and similar vehicles (the ones with license plates and mandatory helmets) will probably be hit the worst.

Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by CapsAdmin on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:45PM (#38564804)
In Norway the law is stated such that you can get help from the bicycle engine to reach max 25km/h.

It's not very difficult to reach 30km/h to 50km/h manually on a bicycle.

Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by jeroenhd on Thursday December 07, 2023 @10:48PM (#38565207)
30km/h is doable with some minor effort, sure, but it's not exactly common. You'll be held up by other bikes constantly on most roads this applies to.

50km/h is for athletes or going down steep hills. If you're training for the tour de france in some random neighbourhood in Amsterdam, I think you're doing something wrong.

Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by mfalcao on Thursday December 07, 2023 @10:28PM (#38565095)
50 is literally faster than Tour de France pros maintain on flat ground. A regular person on a normal bike will have a hard time even doing 30.
Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by CapsAdmin on Thursday December 07, 2023 @10:50PM (#38565222)
Thanks for pointing that out.. Maybe 35km/h is a more reasonable ceiling.

The reason I mentioned this number is because I found this article of some Norwegian middle aged woman saying she is reaching 50km/h explaining something with the speed limit of bicycles in Norway.

However she meant that she reaches that speed downhill, which makes sense..

https://elbil.no/lovlig-elsykkel-i-508-km-t/

Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by jacquesm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:57PM (#38564907)
50 sustained is trained athlete level. Normal cyclists can't do that for any length of time.
Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by fulafel on Friday December 08, 2023 @01:57PM (#38572755)
Nitpick: the assist must cut off at 25 km/h but you can pedal it faster if you are up to it. (unless it's a s-pedelec which is allowed to go 45 km/h but away from bike lanes).
Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by senkora on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:32PM (#38564702)
One thing that really surprised me about London when I visited (and people told me that this was also true for the EU and so presumably Amsterdam), was that ebikes are limited to a top speed of 15mph before pedaling. If I heard correctly, it sounds like this won’t affect ebikes?

This surprised me because in NYC ebikes are limited to 25mph before pedaling.

Re:Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads by jacquesm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @10:23PM (#38565065)
That's an EU thing and aims to make it safe to put e-bikes on the bike paths instead of in the car lanes. It groups vehicles with similar speed and relative weight together.