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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by ren_engineer on Thursday December 07, 2023 @05:19PM (#38562628)
>Google Docs created in 2006

tech was based on an acquired company, Google just abused their search monopoly to make it more popular(same thing they did with YT). This has been the strategy for every service they've ever made, Google really hasn't launched a decent in-house product since Gmail and even that was grown using their search monopoly as free advertising

>Google Docs originated from Writely, a web-based word processor created by the software company Upstartle and launched in August 2005

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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by robertlagrant on Thursday December 07, 2023 @05:37PM (#38562761)
> Google really hasn't launched a decent in-house product since Gmail

What about Chrome? And Chromebooks?

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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by nieve on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:00PM (#38562986)
Sorry if this was a joke and I didn't spot it. Chrome was based on WebKit which was itself based on KHTML if memory serves. Chromebooks are based on a version of that outside engine running on top of Linux which they also didn't create.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by jamedjo on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:45PM (#38563404)
Chrome as a project was still a Google thing even if they used Konqueror's rendering library.

The process model was the novel selling point at the time from my memory [1].

[1] https://www.scottmccloud.com/googlechrome/

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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by lmm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @08:56PM (#38564457)
The faster javascript runtime was what made it a success IMO.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by acheron on Friday December 08, 2023 @09:37AM (#38569529)
The leveraging their search monopoly to push it and paying other software to sneak it into installs is what made it a success.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by lmm on Sunday December 10, 2023 @05:27PM (#38595698)
Nah. Safari did plenty of monopoly abuse and sneaking into installs, but still never got big on Windows. At some point the user experience does matter.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by robertlagrant on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:34PM (#38563291)
It's not a joke. Just because they didn't write everything from scratch (Chromebooks also are made with hard disks that Google didn't create from directly mining raw materials and performing all intermediate manufacturing stages) doesn't mean they haven't released successful products that they didn't just buy in.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by lmm on Thursday December 07, 2023 @08:58PM (#38564472)
They used the KDE-derived HTML renderer, sure, but they wrote the whole Javascript runtime from scratch, which was what gave it the speed they used as a selling point.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by mda on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:36AM (#38567055)
Webkit is not a browser.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by weikju on Sunday December 10, 2023 @11:37PM (#38597675)
If you have a Mac you can download the Webkit browser here: https://webkit.org/downloads/

Which uses the WebKit engine and is kindof a showcase for Safari, granted, but it still exists as distinct browser under that name.

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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by camflan on Thursday December 07, 2023 @05:53PM (#38562918)
mmm, WebKit?
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by bofaGuy on Thursday December 07, 2023 @08:01PM (#38564057)
Chromium browsers do use WebKit

https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/display...

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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by rafram on Thursday December 07, 2023 @09:52PM (#38564870)
That’s extremely outdated. There’s very little WebKit code remaining in Chromium today.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by bofaGuy on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @12:23AM (#38609836)
Ahh yep you’re right. Thanks
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by mda on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:38AM (#38567069)
It was a fork from the beginning and it is blink engine for 10 years.
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by andiareso on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:01PM (#38562997)
I laughed out loud for this one
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Re:Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice by rchaud on Friday December 08, 2023 @09:57AM (#38569787)
Chromebooks are worse version of the netbooks from 2008, which ran an actual desktop OS. Chromebooks are OLPCs for the rich world, designed with vendor lock-in built in. They eventually end up at discount wholesale lots if not landfills because how quickly they go obsolete.
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