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Re:95%-ile isn't that good (2020) by onlyrealcuzzo on Thursday December 07, 2023 @02:51PM (#38560977)
It's easy to be in the top 99% in a competition nobody cares about.

Try being in the top 1% of basketball players if you're under 5'9".

Easier said than done.

Re:95%-ile isn't that good (2020) by madamelic on Thursday December 07, 2023 @03:05PM (#38561145)
Absolutely. The article hints at this problem by saying 95th percentile is easy but the grind from 95th to 99th is more difficult, requiring explicit effort and reflection on your process.

To use a gaming metaphor that hopefully lands, the XP grind from level 1 to 92 in Runscape is the same XP amount as the XP needed to go from 92 to 99 [0].

It is also illustrated with the Pareto Principle and the 90/10 rule where the final portion takes the most resources. Someone can easily become top 10% basketball player given the right training. 27M people played basketball recreationally in the US in 2021 [1], you only need to be in the top 2,700,000 players to be a top 10% player. There's only about 500 people in the NBA in a given year [2] so they represent approximately the top 0.0018% of organized basketball players.

If you include people who play rarely or in pick-up games, the odds of a top 10% 5'9 player jump drastically. 5'9 isn't that short either, it's roughly the median height of an American man.

[0]: https://runescape.fandom.com/wiki/Experience/Table [1]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191632/participants-in-b.... [2]: https://www.hoopsbeast.com/total-nba-players/

Re:95%-ile isn't that good (2020) by mlyle on Thursday December 07, 2023 @03:40PM (#38561518)
> To use a gaming metaphor that hopefully lands, the XP grind from level 1 to 92 in Runscape is the same XP amount as the XP needed to go from 92 to 99 [0].

Do you get more XP on average when you're a higher level?

Re:95%-ile isn't that good (2020) by furst on Thursday December 07, 2023 @04:16PM (#38561923)
It really depends skill to skill, but generally yes. However, and keeping in mind this again varies a lot skill to skill, the increases are not even the same order of magnitude as the scaling for the xp required.
Re:95%-ile isn't that good (2020) by empath-nirvana on Thursday December 07, 2023 @04:54PM (#38562351)
You're thinking about the _NBA_ when you think of basketball players. You can _easily_ be in the top 5% of _people that play basketball_ just by playing at the gym once or twice a month, even if you're short.
Re:95%-ile isn't that good (2020) by onlyrealcuzzo on Monday December 11, 2023 @11:48AM (#38602176)
I think you're vastly overestimating the amount of people who play basketball.

Sure, if you count everyone who's ever touched a basketball in their life - it might not be hard to be in the top 5%.

If you counting anyone who has played at least within the last 3 months - it's not going to be so easy.