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Re:Databases are the endgame for data-oriented design by Etheryte on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:14PM (#38547518)
I feel like you've come to the right conclusion, but partly for the wrong reasons. Terseness in and of itself is not useful per se. Code golfing languages are the tersest there is, but we don't write code that way.
Re:Databases are the endgame for data-oriented design by ndriscoll on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:29PM (#38549726)
Or they just used the wrong word. I'd agree with them, but clarify that SQL is not just terse, but concise.

A join or a group by is going to be much clearer than writing the code the query plan is going to generate, creating temporary hash maps, doing nested loops, etc.

Re:Databases are the endgame for data-oriented design by ttfkam on Thursday December 07, 2023 @08:47PM (#38564398)
Yep, because unlike general purpose programming languages, you describe WHAT data you want from SQL, not HOW to get that data as in most application languages.
Re:Databases are the endgame for data-oriented design by fifilura on Sunday December 10, 2023 @03:31PM (#38594748)
Exactly. And yes, maybe concise was the word I meant to use (not native English speaker).