Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by Volundr on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @12:47PM
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In my case, Emacs+clojure-mode+cider. I'm not sure I recommend learning Emacs at the same time as Clojure though. I usually recommend new users look to Cursive(for IntelliJ) or Calva (vscode) depending on what they are most comfortable with.
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Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by packetlost on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @12:58PM
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I'm a vim user and there's no way in hell I'm switching to emacs, even with EVIL mode. I'll check out Calva
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by fiddlerwoaroof on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:17PM
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I forget what the current recommendation for vim is, but back when I still wrote a lot of Clojure, people used vim-fireplace. I think there is a newer one for NeoVim, though
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by epiccoleman on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:56PM
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Almost ten years ago, I gave a lightning talk about Overtone (Clojure mappings for SuperCollider). I used "vim-fireplace" to connect to cider-nrepl and had a pretty good experience being able to quickly eval sexps in Vim.
I'm sure this is wildly outdated by now - I'd be shocked if there wasn't something halfway decent in the NeoVim ecosystem.
I will say, though, that during a brief flirtation with Spacemacs, I absolutely loved the Clojure integration - emacs just feels like it's more "at home" with lisps. Some of the most satisfying programming experiences I've had, honestly.
As a Vim user I agree. Spacemacs is an excellent Clojure dev environment.
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by epiccoleman on Thursday December 07, 2023 @02:42PM
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The spacemacs / emacs feature I miss constantly in Vim / VsCode is "slurp/barf" - which is amazing useful in plenty of contexts that aren't s-exps.
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday December 08, 2023 @04:00PM
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Yeah, it’s annoying that paredit is “complected” with Clojure and lisp modes in other editors. This is one of the major things keeping me in emacs: it’s relatively trivial to mash up pre-existing emacs functionality ad hoc; other editors tend to precombine features in arbitrary ways.
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by fiddlerwoaroof on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:27PM
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I too resisted emacs for years while writing Common Lisp in vim, but eventually I ported my vim config line by line to the emacs lisp implementation of the vi standard
Check out Conjure for nvim: https://github.com/Olical/conjure/
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by packetlost on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @02:06PM
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I'm currently a Conjure (and vim-sexp) user, but was wondering if there was something Clojure specific that didn't also have annoying tabbing defaults
Hopefully someone will chime in with their recommended setup for vim. I think there is pretty mature tooling available, but I'm not immediately familiar with it, so my advice there would be no better than Google.
Calva is a solid choice if you don't mind switching editors.
Re:Why is Jepsen written in Clojure?
by manishsharan on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:26PM
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Checkout Cursive on Intellij. The $100 on Cursive is the best $100 I ever spent on a tool.