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Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by DeathArrow on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:08AM (#38542788)
>But that's the whole problem: they shouldn't have to hide it in the first place.

What does that have to do with Python? You can chose to respect the laws in the country you are in, or not.

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by Xeamek on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:11AM (#38542812)
You can also judge if a given law is moral or valid, and take actions based on that.

PSF has some moral views and they believe in some standards regardless of given country's law. Why are you so fixated on that?

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by disgruntledphd2 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:47AM (#38543136)
Sure, that's totally fine.

However, what is the impact here?

Basically the volunteers for a Python conference needed to write an open letter as the conference didn't happen.

Like, if the PSF don't want conferences in places where same-sex relationships are prohibited, then they should just make that a policy. Personally, I would disagree with that policy as I don't see how Python relates to said policies, but it would be fine.

What's not fine is relatively poor volunteers being forced to guarantee major expenses for a conference because the PSF couldn't make a decision.

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by DeathArrow on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:38AM (#38543060)
>PSF has some moral views

I thought the reason PSF exists is to promote Python, not to have political views.

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by Xeamek on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:52AM (#38543186)
The main reason of some entity's existence doesn't prevent it from having an additional views, that can even shape the way they execute their primary goal
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by Tao3300 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:19AM (#38544954)
https://www.python.org/psf/mission/

> The mission of the Python Software Foundation is to promote, protect, and advance the Python programming language, and to support and facilitate the growth of a diverse and international community of Python programmers.

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by polski-g on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:54AM (#38545506)
By prohibiting African Python programmers from taking part because of their political views, how does that promote "diverse and international communities"?

Are anti-LGBT Africans not diverse enough?

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by acdha on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @11:02AM (#38545651)
Nobody is prohibited from attending based on their political views. It’s only a question of whether those views cause someone to negatively impact other attendees that they have a problem. You can be completely anti-LGBT as long as you’re mature enough to only talk about Python at a Python conference.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by polski-g on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @11:29AM (#38546052)
They're not funding entire conferences because of how a country decides to vote, even though it has nothing to do with Python or programming.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by acdha on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @11:34AM (#38546132)
It does have to do with people being free and safe to attend, however. If you see freedom as additive, that’s consistent: the PSF doesn’t want to be associated with conferences which are risky for some people to attend. That doesn’t mean that a different conference can’t be organized, only that they are uncomfortable supporting less free places. I’m fine with that as long as it applies to U.S. states which fail the same concerns.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by danShumway on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:31PM (#38551774)
What does respecting a law have to do with Python?

The venue is safe for the international Python community, or it is not.