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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by gnfargbl on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:57AM (#38542122)
Then why aren't those EU countries negotiating agreements with other less-well-off countries that are so blessed?

Yes, that would require a cable. But it isn't rational to be in a situation where we believe we can build a fusion reactor, but some relatively simple civil engineering is apparently beyond us.

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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by wkat4242 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:14AM (#38542205)
The EU is surrounded by a bunch of dictatorships. Not exactly the ones you want to have you by the balls for something as important as energy.

See what's happening now with the Middle East. Don't want to repeat that dependency. I'm referring to the UAE basically using the climate conference as a sales conference for fossil.

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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by ragebol on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:04AM (#38542154)
Though not the EU anymore, but something like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Powe...

The downside being you still don't have energy independence, if that is a goal.

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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by offices on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:30AM (#38542267)
It should be a goal. It's less than 2 years since a former EU ally used our dependence on them for energy as a bargaining tool.
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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by gnfargbl on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:08AM (#38542793)
We haven't had energy independence in Europe for decades. That risk is managed by hedging, and there's no reason we couldn't do the same with long-distance solar interconnects.
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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by adwn on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:24AM (#38542922)
> We haven't had energy independence in Europe for decades.

Yes, and that has bitten us in the ass big time.

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Re:World's largest tokamak fusion reactor powers up by stavros on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:14AM (#38542499)
It's odd to me that you're fine with the fruits of all other research, such as solar panels or power transmission infrastructure, but this particular bit of research is an affront.
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