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Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by prakhar897 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:49AM (#38541096)
Can you link the sources for this. afaik India still has net neutrality and no bills tabled recently against this.
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by rsingel on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @03:37AM (#38541679)
Here's the proceeding on it: https://www.trai.gov.in/consultation-paper-regulatory-mechan...

Here's Jio's filing, claiming poverty:

https://www.trai.gov.in/sites/default/files/Reliance_JIO_Inf...

Here's my boss, the great Stanford Law Professor Barbara van Schewick, rebutting Jio and more:

https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/publicatio...

Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by yorwba on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @03:47AM (#38541728)
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by rsingel on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @03:52AM (#38541754)
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by yorwba on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:41AM (#38542034)
> Try https://www.trai.gov.in/sites/default/files/Reliance_Jio_Inf...

This one works. Took me embarrassingly long to figure out the difference is in the capitalization of "Jio".

Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by slipshady on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @02:35AM (#38541330)
I don’t have data but I wouldn’t be surprised if it got there. India is mobile first, Jio is putting internet in the hands of 100s of millions of Indian at cheap prices. They’re shutting out the competitors.

Jio also has its own streaming service, which doesn’t count against your data caps. That’s anti net neutrality.

The obvious next step is to start making the sender pay for traffic as well.

Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by rsingel on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @03:37AM (#38541683)
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by selfhoster69 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:59AM (#38542407)
> Jio also has its own streaming service, which doesn’t count against your data caps.

How does this work? AFAIK JioCinema uses Akamai for content delivery... do they not count data for traffic from their own hosted edge caches or is it something else?

Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by rsingel on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @11:22AM (#38545953)
Can you point me to where Jio says it zero rates this? This is new to me and very interested
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by Alex4386 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @02:20AM (#38541266)
If you connect two or more telecom lines into your rack or any service, you need to pay "Cross-Connect" fees. This is paid separately even if you brought your network line by your own. I can't say how much price is it since it is mostly trade secret with the sales dept of the telecom. but I'd say its a lot.
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by rsingel on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @03:49AM (#38541740)
Usual fees for cross-connect are low and one-time. It's charging for data into a network that cause the issue.
Re:An Update on Twitch in Korea by elliewithcolor on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:23AM (#38541922)
Transit yes; Deutsche Telekom AG is one of the worst in Europe. While telia charges something in the range of 10-20ct per Mbit; DTAG charges 80ct.