Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by yladiz on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:44PM
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C’mon, there is a pretty big difference between this and sumptuary law, don’t try to equate them. A sumptuary law is on the consumer and this is on the producer.
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Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by 378474r9r on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:54PM
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"You can't compare two things just because their outcomes are the same."
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by jncfhnb on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:04PM
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No, you cannot equate two things even if they lead to the same outcome
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by 378474r9r on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:32PM
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If the outcomes are the same you can certainly equate the outcomes and if the intent is the same, such as to limit consumption, then you can certainly equate the intent as well. After the intent and the outcome I don't really see how the rest is anything but execution details.
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by defrost on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:34PM
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The intent is to limit waste not consumption.
There is a difference that you're not seeing. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38538799
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by 378474r9r on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:39PM
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You're arguing execution details. I don't think the original post was saying this was literally the same thing just that it effectively is. Your argument around intent is largely a reframing that serves to sidestep the obvious disparate impact angles on the matter. "The intent isn't to stifle consumption that's just a predictable consequence of our intent" is an extremely shallow rebuttal.
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by jncfhnb on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:48PM
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Execution details are salient. Outcomes are higher dimensioned than what you describe.
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by Teachez on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @08:58PM
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There's no chance those words are intended to convey meaning. Is there?
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by jncfhnb on Thursday December 07, 2023 @12:47AM
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These are not complicated words
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by wyager on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @07:42PM
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When there are two parties to a transaction, it doesn't really matter which party you forbid from making the transaction. The effect is the same, which is all that really matters from an economic standpoint
Re:EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing
by edmundsauto on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:43PM
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Even if true, economics is only one part of the equation.
When society discusses sex work, there is more support for penalizing the traffickers than the workers. This is because morals are an important dimension besides just economics. Similarly, when talking about waste, there is more depth than just thinking about the economic impact.