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Re:Firefox on the Brink? by jasonjayr on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @02:09PM (#38535490)
Is it really a standard if no one implements it in a way that everyone agrees on?

Is it really a standard if the dominant vendor just ignores the standard and does what it wants because then it becomes the "actual standard" ?

As a (terrible) example, look at FIPS. The government has the power to mandate a standard that everyone needs to implement. If instead of "supporting specific browser vendors" they "support a specific standard" then all vendors have a target that works with an agreed upon common ground.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:07PM (#38536263)
> Is it really a standard if no one implements it in a way that everyone agrees on?

Plenty of standards are guidelines. The point is the website’s purpose trumps dogmatic adherence to a standard. If the site works against standards but not in the browser, it’s a failure.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by int_19h on Thursday December 07, 2023 @01:13PM (#38559718)
But we can still have websites that work against existing browsers while also being strictly conforming to the standard, surely?

Basically, no proprietary features whatsoever. No draft features. No optionally-supported standard features without a fallback that fully covers the same underlying use case.