The free market clowns are like Libertarians, imo.

Hopelessly reliant on systems that they detest.

Ever notice the folks advocating free markets the hardest have the most to gain by steamrolling the little people?

Free markets are a dream and not something that can exist in the real world, without significant consequences for the majority.

I generally agree, but I tend to turn the perspective around to this: truly "Free Markets" are basically the natural, unevolved state of affairs when you don't have a better system in place. The whole reason we invented those better systems is to improve the "consequences for the majority".

> Ever notice the folks advocating free markets the hardest have the most to gain by steamrolling the little people?

Or so they believe. They haven't thought just how much they're dependent on goods and services provided by all the "little people", at every moment of their lives. They haven't realized that in case of a societal collapse, they won't be on top - they'll be under the guillotine.

There's a special kind of delusion easily afflicted by successful people - that because they were so successful, it was because they are so much better. Therefore they will easily believe they will come out on top also in societal collapse. I think such reasoning is behind many super-expensive bug out plans with fortified villas and bunkers.

How many successful people are building bunkers? Isn't that just a pasttime of the very wealthy? There are a whole lot of regular successful people in this world that aren't building out doomsday scenarios in their spare time.

And I'd argue that for the most part these normal successful people are generally justified in thinking they are successful on the merits. Luck has a role, but so does grit.

Most aren’t building bunkers. I just took that as a colourful illustration of how success can skew your perception of reality. This is not even necessarily related to if the success is on their merits or not. I think one can fall into this trap regardless of how one got there.

Yeah those bunker wont belong to them if things go to shit at best they will belong to their now former bodyguard.

A true libertarian wouldn't support corporations at all. They are as bad as tyrannical governments. Proprietorships and partnerships would limit exposure to tyranny of the corporation. They focus the responsibility of the business on the owner and not some protected class of employee.

A true libertarian would ride in on their Unicorn, because those don't exist either. ;)

Your ad hominem arguments will never negate the arguments made against you and ultimately you know this at a deep level. Good day.

ROFL. Your casual dismissal doesn't make your ideas more valid.

Thanks, I needed a big laugh today.

Google "free town project" for an idea of how Ayn Rand's self-centered approach to community plays out IRL.