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Re:Firefox on the Brink? by taylodl on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:29AM (#38532115)
Last I looked Safari isn't Chrome.

Also, anybody can use the Gecko web rendering engine, yet project after project after project has picked the WebKit or Blink rendering engines.

And no, I haven't "shot myself in the foot" - when I replaced Firefox I found two great browsers: Brave and Vivaldi.

The better question is why you continue to support a compromised organization?

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by toyg on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:26PM (#38533957)
Gecko being a mess for embedded use pre-dates the Eich affair and Baker's payday.

As for Mozilla being compromised - maybe, but it's still less compromised than advertisement companies, crypto companies, tax evaders, and their likes.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by glenstein on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:20PM (#38533851)
Just to make sure I'm following along, we were talking about how youtube includes a delay of several seconds if it detects a certain ad blocking browser extension. Firefox has that browser extension, and therefore Mozilla is a "compromised organization."
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by taylodl on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @04:22PM (#38537072)
You violated YouTube's T's & C's and you're complaining about Google putting you in timeout for doing so. You steal from YouTube's content creators yet present Mozilla as the good guys. Have I summed that up accurately?
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by glenstein on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:47PM (#38547936)
None of that was my question, so, no.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by croes on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:48PM (#38536703)
Safari is a niche and is missing features.

And Brave and Vivaldi are based on Chromium, so they help Google that Chromium sets the standards for the web.

You already shot yourself, just didn't recognize yet.

Why do you support a crooked company like Google?

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by taylodl on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @04:32PM (#38537198)
> Why do you support a crooked company like Google?

Get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science. Other companies making significant contributions to our knowledge of computer science are AT&T, IBM, and Microsoft. Would you prefer them to Google?

Also, the Firefox against the world meme is juvenile.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by croes on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @03:23AM (#38541618)
It's not about Firefox against the world, it's we against Google and at the moment Firefox is all we have.

>Get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by taylodl on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:11AM (#38544094)
Like I said, get back with me when the Mozilla Foundation has done a fraction of what Google has done in furthering our knowledge of computer science.

I would also consider which Big Tech company you're fighting. Last I looked, Google wasn't cited as the cause of a significant uptick in US teenagers committing suicide and being plagued with mental health issues. I could go on, but in the realm of Bad Actors in the land of Big Tech, Google is actually one of the least problematic entities.