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Re:Firefox on the Brink? by tiahura on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @09:40AM (#38531346)
Holy S***!!!

Isn’t there a board?

Edit: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/who-we-are/leadership/ And you thought openai’s board was a joke.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by smallerfish on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:29AM (#38532106)
Interesting that only 1 out of 17 people in the senior management group is a technologist, and she's a senior director. No VPE, no CTO. Says a lot about the organization's priorities.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by throitallaway on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:28AM (#38532091)
> Sarah Allen, Senior Director, MozFest > Juan Barani, Senior Director, Gift Planning

Not to pick on these two people, but it's interesting that they have senior directors for a conference and gift planning.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by khuey on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:35AM (#38532197)
"gift planning" here means "getting rich people to give us large checks".
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by sowbug on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:20PM (#38533858)
The "planning" term should be read the same way as "estate planning" or "financial planning." They're a charity, so they have employees dedicated to ensuring a continuous stream of donations. For example, someone might pledge to give $X over the next 10 years, or to give a percentage of their estate to the foundation when they die.

This branch of the company is often called "development," but R&D organizations sometimes need to come up with different names because that term gets overloaded.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by blackhaz on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:36AM (#38532199)
Motherfuck! Mozilla's board and their funding projects almost makes me want to abandon Firefox and go to Chrome.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by culi on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:49AM (#38533338)
After Microsoft giving up on their rendering engine and joining the Chromium train I think the internet is in a perilous place. We're down to Blink, Gecko, and WebKit. Apple's monopoly on iOS browsers (soon to be undone) is unfortunately one of the last things keeping us from recreating the dark ages of IE's near monopoly on the market. I'd recommend at least supporting a non-Blink based browser like:

  * Lunascape (actually has all 3 major engines built in. Great for web dev)
  * Pale Moon - uses Goanna, a fork of Gecko
  * Waterfox - focused on speed and privacy and compatible with Firefox addons
See also: Floorp, IceCat, and SeaMonkey
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by kemotep on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:07AM (#38532682)
Despite all this nonsense about the board, Firefox remains the best browser in my experience. It isn’t cramming an AI chatbot and coupon codes during checkout into my browser experience or working to eliminate ad blocking.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by culi on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:51AM (#38533385)
They also don't ban and lie about anti-tracking extensions like AdNausium (a data poisoning adblocker[0]). Chrome banned it from their store. As well as other extensions like Bypass Paywalls Clean. Ultimately the Firefox addon ecosystem is simply freer

[0] https://adnauseam.io/

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by creatonez on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @02:25AM (#38541288)
AdNauseum situation was funny, you had Firefox endorsing it as a high quality ad blocker in a Mozilla press release, then Google bans it because they consider it malware.

Folks have raised concerns about Mozilla's funding from Google Search, but it's pretty clear from their past actions that they see supporting ad blocking as non-negotiable. Their diverging implementation of Manifest v3, while still incomplete (it's rapidly improving in 120, most of the remaining issues are related to Fenix support and Chrome parity), is thoughtfully designed to continue to provide familiar APIs for ad blocking.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by danaris on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:29PM (#38534004)
This sounds very much like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The Mozilla board might be largely incompetent and/or corrupt, but they aren't actively trying to steal your data to profit from, and Firefox is still genuinely a less user-hostile product than Chrome.

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by slig on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:32AM (#38533078)
I would be that all of them use iPhones and neither of them uses FF mobile.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by DeIlliad on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:22AM (#38532001)
I know nothing about these people on the board but you clearly do since you think they are a joke so please go on.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by sgift on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:10AM (#38531821)
What is so bad about the board? Besides not reigning in the CEO compensation.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by tiahura on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:44AM (#38532322)
I'll just add.

As we are in the holidays and reflecting on things we are grateful for - Thank God for Linus!

Re:Firefox on the Brink? by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:07AM (#38531770)
The board of any startupy tech company focused on "innovation and changing the world" seem to be carbon copies of the fictional boards on the Silicon Valley satire show.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by 12345hn6789 on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:49AM (#38532404)
Suddenly things make more sense about Firefox...
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by sebstefan on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:25AM (#38532058)
Did you get triggered by the diversity or do you have a real thing to say about the board?
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by concordDance on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:22PM (#38533877)
I suspect they think that the board was selected for DEIness rather than understanding of the browser market.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by tiahura on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @04:24PM (#38537110)
No. Instead of being a board with a critical interest in Firefox, and who will continually challenge management to do what's best for FF, you've got a rubber stamp board who, let's be real, couldn't care less about FF.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by rafram on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:10AM (#38531822)
Do you actually have a reason to think they’re a “joke,” or is it just that there are women and minorities on it?
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by mardifoufs on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:24AM (#38532038)
It's either that or they are referring to the board being useless against the CEO. Usually the board is the only group keeping a CEO in check. Honestly don't know from the tone of the comment though
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:22AM (#38532898)
That's just recursive as the main problem with the CEO seems to be that she's a woman.
Re:Firefox on the Brink? by concordDance on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @12:18PM (#38533820)
Surely the declining numbers and increasing compensation are the main problem?