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Re:San Francisco now at 35% office vacancy rate, highest eve... by jacooper on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @09:14AM (#38530946)
Riyadh is dangerous and has a clear gradient between the poor and the rich?
Re:San Francisco now at 35% office vacancy rate, highest eve... by wheels on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @09:54AM (#38531580)
I stayed in the Al Bat'ha district when I was there, where there were virtually no short-term visitors (can't say "tourists" since Saudi Arabia didn't have tourist visas; I was speaking at a conference, but stayed for an extra week). It never felt dangerous, but there was a massive gap between ritzy central Riyadh and the market district. Close to half of the population of Riyad are guest workers with limited rights and low salaries; I can't remember if that seemed to be the reason for the gap. This was also 20 years ago, so I don't have any sense for how it's developed since, but I'd be surprised if it has changed.
Re:San Francisco now at 35% office vacancy rate, highest eve... by jacooper on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:25AM (#38532056)
20 years ago? Man Riyadh is a completely different city now, even locals from other cities can't believe how much it has changed.

This the first result from a quick search about it https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/see-do/destinations/riyadh

Re:San Francisco now at 35% office vacancy rate, highest eve... by wheels on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @10:40AM (#38532278)
And the 40% of the city that are Desi immigrants also enjoy that improvement? There were very nice things in the city 20 years ago (and all of the cities I listed); they just weren't available to a major chunk of the population. I'm skeptical that that part has changed in Riyadh?
Re:San Francisco now at 35% office vacancy rate, highest eve... by csomar on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:02PM (#38540361)
Things did definitely improve for them though the gap remains. Still, the gap does not mean it’s dangerous. I haven’t been to Riadh but if it’s similar to Doha/Dubai, then you can walk into a worker’s neighborhood at anytime with no consequences.