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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by underlipton on Sunday December 03, 2023 @11:37AM (#38508313)
The closest thing we had to it - welfare and unemployment benefits without work requirements or onerous means testing - were dismantled on the basis of shoddy (read: nonexistent) research and amidst an atmosphere of racism and classism, and with the current status quo perpetuated by the perverse incentives of public-private "work search support" contracts. Any analysis of resistance to the implementation of UBI should consider this history. Some reporting on the matter:

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/magic-bureaucrat-rive...

https://revealnews.org/podcast/the-welfare-to-work-industria...

https://www.cbpp.org/research/test-work-requirements-dont-cu...

We've known for a while now that the best approach is to just give people the money needed for them to improve their circumstances (whether that be capital for business or funding for training or other support services like therapy or housing).

EDIT: And a tangential link of some special interest: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/20/255819681...

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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by SV_BubbleTime on Sunday December 03, 2023 @11:47AM (#38508398)
> We've known for a while now that the best approach

Another settled science, and it for the progressive outlook. What an amazing coincidence.

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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by _a_a_a_ on Sunday December 03, 2023 @11:56AM (#38508498)
Did you read his links? At least he gave some, you didn't.
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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by SV_BubbleTime on Sunday December 03, 2023 @09:21PM (#38513031)
Ultra progressive media outlet says UBI is great, comment posts progressive outlet sources, upvoted on a site with progressive users.

No, I’m not interested in playing that game.

I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just pointing out to others that the fanatics seriously think this is a known-quantity / settled science.

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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by _a_a_a_ on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:14AM (#38516326)
> Ultra progressive ... progressive users ... fanatics

You say more about yourself than anyone else.

> ... think this is a known-quantity / settled science.

I don't think anyone thinks it is settled. Personally I don't know and I very much want to, but comments like yours do not illuminate in the least. Actual facts would be welcome

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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by SV_BubbleTime on Monday December 04, 2023 @04:06PM (#38523061)
> We've known for a while now that the best approach

> I don't think anyone thinks it is settled.

Heard.

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Re:The first results from the biggest basic income experiment by _a_a_a_ on Monday December 04, 2023 @05:57PM (#38524361)
OK, ISWYM. I wouldn't make the claim it's settled but someone did and you're right. Upvoted.
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