Re:The 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers
by Martinussen on Friday December 01, 2023 @10:03PM
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The creators I watch aren't making their income from YouTube, even when that is their only main platform. Patreon and video sponsorships through direct deals/ad networks are the bulk of it, in a lot of cases.
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Re:The 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers
by dylan604 on Friday December 01, 2023 @10:19PM
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So now, you're proposing the PBS model of broadcasting vs advertising supported broadcasting.
It's amusing to me how we keep reinventing existing models but consider them a totally new thing because "on a computer" kind of thing.
Re:The 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers
by beej71 on Friday December 01, 2023 @10:40PM
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I watch my YouTube videos on patreon, ad-free. The creators are making more off me, too.
Re:The 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers
by dylan604 on Friday December 01, 2023 @11:40PM
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great, so you just provided evidence that YT isn't so critical as you've found the same content elsewhere
Re:The 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers
by beej71 on Saturday December 02, 2023 @04:54PM
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Technically patreon uses embedded YouTube vids, but your point stands. YT isn't so critical.
Re:The 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers
by Martinussen on Saturday December 02, 2023 @09:28AM
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I'm not proposing anything, just noting that Youtube ads are not providing a relevant direct incentive to a lot of creators. Obviously "keeping Youtube running" also matters to anyone using the platform as a part of making a living, but at least personally I feel like that is a different problem that needs to be approached from other angles.
Some amount of reinvention seems necessary, the cost model of video hosting (without just making it a public service) changes the maths a fair bit.