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Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by stavros on Friday December 01, 2023 @06:30PM (#38494046)
I just pirate.

I'll stop when my rights are respected, promise.

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by avitous on Friday December 01, 2023 @08:41PM (#38494973)
This is The Way.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by nickff on Friday December 01, 2023 @06:35PM (#38494086)
I’ve heard many “pirates” say similar things, and when their condition is met, they find a new demand. Why would an IP rights-holder believe you?

Why not just buy physical media where available, and abstain where an acceptable legal option is not provided?

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by stavros on Friday December 01, 2023 @06:38PM (#38494123)
You misunderstand, I'm not trying to convince rights holders. I hope they go out of business, and I hope my piracy is what does it. It's just that, knowing myself, I know I wouldn't bother with the hassle of pirating if there were a better alternative, like I stopped pirating games and just buy them on Steam now.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by kaladin-jasnah on Friday December 01, 2023 @07:22PM (#38494459)
Gabe Newell himself said "piracy is a service problem," and it really shows because buying on Steam is 10x more convenient as a Linux user than pirating the game.

Especially with Linux gaming, I think Valve has made it more convenient to just buy games.

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by stavros on Friday December 01, 2023 @07:23PM (#38494472)
Steam is a godsend for Linux. I no longer have to even check where a game plays, I know that a Steam game will play on Linux. Nowadays I buy games mostly as thanks to Valve's Linux efforts, as I don't really tend to game much.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by iforgotpassword on Saturday December 02, 2023 @02:36AM (#38496731)
It's still not every game, checking protondb before buying is good advice.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by stavros on Saturday December 02, 2023 @05:24AM (#38497547)
That's true, that's oversimplification on my part. I tend to like older, non-AAA games, and I haven't had a single one of those fail so far.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday December 01, 2023 @07:00PM (#38494295)
I've recently started pirating again specifically because everything has been pulled off of netflix.

I'm not going to be nickle & dime'd. You were getting paid for my consumption and now you're not.

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by causality0 on Friday December 01, 2023 @07:09PM (#38494371)
Well said. Users pirating content vs the largest companies on earth fucking users in every way they can possibly get away with is a great example of "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic".
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by stavros on Friday December 01, 2023 @07:18PM (#38494439)
They don't just fuck users, they fuck their employees as well. How many writers' strikes have there been now? How much of an open secret was Weinstein raping and abusing actresses?

I hope the whole system dies, and maybe something better will take its place. I'm sure I won't miss Guardians of the Galaxy XXIV.

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by tzs on Friday December 01, 2023 @08:26PM (#38494886)
> I'm sure I won't miss Guardians of the Galaxy XXIV.

Is this because you thought GotG 1-3 were bad and they are just going to keep making more bad stuff, or because you thought GotG 1-3 were good but have pretty much wrapped up the story of those characters so it is now time to stop, or something else?

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by bravetraveler on Friday December 01, 2023 @10:45PM (#38495684)
(not who you're asking, but I saw this negative and thought it deserves an answer)

It's a much wider criticism. Not a specific series... or even media.

There are perverse incentives between producer, actor, and consumer in entertainment and so many other things.

In this light, I'd argue piracy is moral by not providing support to a corrupt system. Or at least serves as a means to prevent such a state

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by stavros on Saturday December 02, 2023 @05:21AM (#38497535)
Neither, Hollywood has been playing it so safe that they don't dare produce anything original any more, and it has become much more boring as a whole lately.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by aidenn0 on Friday December 01, 2023 @07:39PM (#38494581)
Indeed, GotG is really going to peak around volume 16.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by pravus on Friday December 01, 2023 @08:34PM (#38494937)
> Why would an IP rights-holder believe you?

Because in addition to all the filthy pirated booty I stole, I would also show them this:

    * My 350+ physical CD collection
    * My 200+ physical DVD/Blu-Ray
    * My entire merch collection for Nine Inch Nails (>$1000)
    * My entire merch collection for Rings of Saturn (>$1000)
    * My merch collection from many, many, many other bands
    * Pages of receipts from Bandcamp and other e-media distributors
    * Pages of receipts from direct payments to artists themselves
    * The mass of ticket stubs I've acquired from live shows
    * The mass of movie ticket stubs I've acquired from theaters
I'm never paying for entertainment again. I paid my dues and the industry has done nothing but fuck me and everyone else.

Fuck them. It's over.

Have fun paying to sing "Happy Birthday".

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by tacticalturtle on Saturday December 02, 2023 @11:46AM (#38499872)
Fortunately at least “Happy Birthday” is in the public domain as of 2016.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by bigstrat2003 on Saturday December 02, 2023 @03:35PM (#38501798)
I think it's perfectly reasonable to refuse to do business with the media companies who are, indeed, evil and dishonest in how they do business. By all means, never give them another dime.

But you also don't have the right to decide "but I still want to consume the content that comes out in the future" and take it without paying. Doing that is no better, morally, than this shit which Sony is pulling. It's taking something which doesn't belong to you. If one does that, then their ideals are hollow and they really were just rationalizing their own selfish behavior. I'm not accusing you specifically of that, but it is depressingly common.

Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by calamari4065 on Friday December 01, 2023 @08:21PM (#38494841)
When it's harder to legally pay for media than it is to pirate, it's your own fault when people pirate.
Re:Playstation removing previously purchased Discovery content by rchaud on Saturday December 02, 2023 @02:30PM (#38501245)
Why can't you do both? I own several DVD sets of TV shows I like because I want to support what little physical media is being released these days. I don't subscribe to any streaming service whatsoever, so I can use that money to only support what I want.