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Re:Edmunds EV Charging Test: How fast does each EV charge? by Retric on Thursday November 30, 2023 @11:09AM (#38475212)
If you really want to do those distances in an EV you can get about a 30% range boost from drafting. But for a trip you’re making twice a year an extra hour is hardly that big a deal. If you have both then sure use an ICE, but over 6 months you’ll save more time charging at home and avoiding gas stations than you spend on that road trip.

> Love how you tried to invalidate my statement that electric cars have no legs, by instead saying it's just silly to drive long distance

I was saying doing a road trip for well past 1,000km is an odd choice. It seems odd that 1 million Canadians can be gone from home for 3-4 months and what have second houses?

Edit: Looks like 40% of Canadians wintering in Florida drive. So yea it’s a thing, but not the most common choice. https://www.thestar.com/life/travel/travel-smart-driving-sou...

Re:Edmunds EV Charging Test: How fast does each EV charge? by bbarnett on Thursday November 30, 2023 @05:37PM (#38480184)
But for a trip you’re making twice a year an extra hour is hardly that big a deal.

That's not your call, for it's my deal. And 3 days to 8 days, as I said, is indeed a big deal.

And here we are again, with you hand-waving away my needs and requirements.

No, your way isn't better. It's worse. For me.

But that's not the point. The point is, electric cars have no legs.

And at a 40% estimate, that's 1/2 a million Canucks driving. And you try to wave away this number, by arguing as if this the only reason anyone ever drives long distances!

It's rare you claim. Well, no it isn't.

It's very common to drive more than 1000km, for many many people, although I realize you're not used to it.

Here's the thing, when people say they need the range, and that electric cars currently don't make sense for them?

They're absolutely, unarguably correct. They're correct, because requirements aren't met, and that's that.

Re:Edmunds EV Charging Test: How fast does each EV charge? by Retric on Thursday November 30, 2023 @06:08PM (#38480539)
8 days is silly, stock EV’s can do 2,800 miles in 2 days at the limit with multiple people doing so. I say 1,000 km per day as the edge of comfortable cruising because I know people that break up 700km trips over 2 days and I that’s roughly the point where most people I know fly.

Anyway, US electric cannonball run using a stock Tesla 3 stands 2,835 miles in 48 hours 10 minutes set in 2019. It’s easily beatable, but people have generally swapped to other models.

Using a stock and in fact rented Tesla Model S Long Range on October 22, 2021, Manhattan to Portifino Inn in Redondo Beach, CA 42 hours, 17 minutes. Lucid air was 44 hours 32 minutes, but they ran into issues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Run_challenge

Of course modified cars can beat this, lowering the model 3 shaved 3 hours and there’s plenty of options to push things further. But that’s well outside of what a normal road trip represents.

Re:Edmunds EV Charging Test: How fast does each EV charge? by bbarnett on Thursday November 30, 2023 @07:00PM (#38481037)
I said Quebec to California. That's farther that US coast to coast.

And how on Earth can you compare a cannonball run, with meticulously chosen routes?

Have you ever driven 3 days at 14 hours, at 130 to 140km/hr, each day? While eating, staying in hotels, refueling and so on? Yes, that turns in 8 days in an EV.

Look, I'm basically done with this thread.

Re:Edmunds EV Charging Test: How fast does each EV charge? by Retric on Thursday November 30, 2023 @08:38PM (#38481884)
>I said Quebec to California. That's farther that US coast to coast.

Ontario Quebec to Sacramento California is 2,809 miles just under the cannonball run distance. So your specific trip might be longer, but Quebec to California isn’t necessarily that far.

> Have you ever driven 3 days at 14 hours, at 130 to 140km/hr, each day? While eating, staying in hotels, refueling and so on? Yes, that turns in 8 days in an EV.

I’ve done 35 hours of driving out of 36 hours in a row only leaving the car at gas stations and even using a piss bottle.

As to EV’s over 3 days it might increase your trip by 3-6 hours depending on what stops you normally make and force you to pice a hotel with charging, perhaps pushing you to 4 days but that’s about it. There’s simply no way you’re seeing 8 days while driving an EV 130kph vs 130-140kph for an ICE.